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Originally Posted by Xtreme View Post
Everyone seems to have adopted this "it's only a little bit more" attitude.

How do you think we got 11 trillion deep in the shitter in the first place?

It wasn't all at once, but bit by bit.

Yes, it is by no mean involved in the fact that the united states is waging two wars, only because we're giving money to countries who get earthquakes.

It seems to me that you have no grasp as to what the U.S. is spending money on. You see, over spending is wrong, emergency spending is right. NOT helping haiti would save us billions of dollars and hurt the peoples trust in its government. Once the U.S. cuts down the healthcare costs and stops or succeeds at destroying the taliban, etc. You'll see the deficit go down. Deficit increases when money needs to be sent, it decreases when it doesn't. We obviously need to be spending LOTS of money. Things are not as simple as "we need to spend less, stop doing this, don't help them." Especially when it comes to situations like haiti, or famines/droughts in other countries. The spending is necessary. End of discussion.

Most of the debt is from (like I said) the two wars, and the bailouts, which as of today, we are apparently getting all of that money back. I'm afraid I can't say the same about the wars.
Last edited by Pirate_old; Jan 15, 2010 at 09:48 PM.
I know plenty of people IRL (and a good few on this forum) who feel the same as I do. The U.S. is not a fucking babysitter, and the financial losses incurred far outweigh any "moral" benefits.
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Originally Posted by Xtreme View Post
I know plenty of people IRL (and a good few on this forum) who feel the same as I do. The U.S. is not a fucking babysitter, and the financial losses incurred far outweigh any "moral" benefits.

So you're telling me, basically, that the country next to your country (maybe your friends, or family lived there) were devastated by a 7.0 earthquake, that literally decimated the city they were living in, should not be helped by your country, despite the fact that many people in your country (including you) have loved ones living there.. because of money?
That is exactly what I'm saying. They can deal with losses themselves. If something like this happened to the US and we received no aid, I honestly wouldn't mind. It isn't their responsibility.
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Originally Posted by Xtreme View Post
That is exactly what I'm saying. They can deal with losses themselves. If something like this happened to the US and we received no aid, I honestly wouldn't mind. It isn't their responsibility.

Well, there are some points to what you say and some point that doesn't really have anything to do with this. But then again, this part: "If something like this happened to the US and we received no aid, I honestly wouldn't mind." Trust me on this, I'm pretty damn sure you wouldn't say the same thing if you were in the middle of all this.
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Originally Posted by Xtreme View Post
I know plenty of people IRL (and a good few on this forum) who feel the same as I do. The U.S. is not a fucking babysitter, and the financial losses incurred far outweigh any "moral" benefits.

You are clearly not reading any of the arguments against your stance, but are just going to keep coming back until someone says "Hey, you're right." You arent though, this isnt exactly a matter of opinion, and it is clear you know other people who think like you since you only have these nonsense opinions to post, they stink of things you have heard other people say and are now repeating for any number of reasons.

In short, unless you can give some reason other than "we shouldnt do it because The US aint no gull durn babysitters" than STFU. You have made your point, nobody else seems to share it, and you are only sending this thread to shit. You obviously started this to find a fight instead of actually trying to view the situation objectively.

Reposting this link, in part to piss you off, and in part because however many pages this thread goes I have decided to keep posting it for all the people out there who can, and are willing to donate. Everyone else, if it goes a page or two before I get home, feel free to post it in my stead.
Last edited by deady; Jan 15, 2010 at 10:56 PM.
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i've been hearing 90.3 NPR news on my way from school and what happened was sad
one librarian was trapped under a building for 3 1/2 who was dehydrated
they shuld do it but earthquakes around there are often and strong
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How come haitians rely on U.S when there is an disater? Like last year the hurri-cane. Clinton had to donate 1,000,000 dollers to them :O