Originally Posted by CaptainSmegma

lolno. just because he didn't read scale charts off the internet, it doesn't mean he didn't know what he was doing. SRV had an incredible talent for picking out the right chord, for example, which he picked up from years of playing and listening to music. Maybe he wouldn't be able to attach a name or label to half the stuff he did, but that doesn't mean he didn't know how to construct a progression or melody.
All the people who go round waving ultra-technical fine points of music theory and pointing out how to form 300 kinds of altered chords are usually the guys who know the least when the instrument is in their hands, since reading about something in theory is no substitute for experimenting and actually playing.

Originally Posted by Slash13

Stevie Ray Vaughan didn't know so much scales and shit, but he could make amazing things with the little knowledge he had.

Originally Posted by Slash13

What the hell are you saying, I never said he didn't know what he was doing

Originally Posted by Slash13

Oh God, why you don't undestand? I mean SRV had not so much technique (knowledge of scales, theory etc.) like, for example, Wes Montgomery. But with the few things he had, he made awesome things. Yes, maybe as for Jimmy Page.

Originally Posted by CaptainSmegma

I understand what you're saying - it's just wrong. Stevie knew exactly where all the scales were, how to pick the right chords and how to form a chord progression - and whether or not he could put a name to all of the complex altered chords he used, he sure knew how the sounded and when to use them. That's what a knowledge of musical theory is. Trust me, he really did know how his stuff.

As for Page - he's a totally different player. Pages playing was also heavily rooted in the blues, but he also worked as a session musician for along time, and this gave him pretty in depth knowledge of a lot of different styles, notably a lot of folk music. He was also an experimental player, and came up with all sorts of interesting and original stuff, especially on live performances, but he also had a lot of technique issues, which shows through in his playing, especially on live recordings where he screws up a lot of notes. That said, he also had some very good live shows (like the gig shown on 'the song remains the same') where he shows real class.

I'd definitely put BB King right up there with the best of them. He's just so good at using the right notes and phrasing that he doesnt need to play fast at all. Most of the fast guys are just covering a lack of inspiration anyway.

Originally Posted by T0ribush

Playing slow allows you to basically play any of the notes CaptainSmegma chromatism, and a hell of a lot of three step bends. Like Actually slowly playing is so easy that more than half of the music made by humanity is slow.

Now the lack of inspiration? Why do you think they play so fast? Because it sounds fucking cool and you can hear all the mistakes. That's if they even make a mistake (Necrophagist) Also shredders listen to a lot of classical music which I think Metal is closest to other than the blues. Baroque is fast and you have violin shredders. I don't see the problem with fast playing. Slow playing is too easy. People need to challenge themselves. Also I'm not saying BB King is bad I think he's bad ass.