Romanovsky, then u have to put also a list of all those civilian casualties (collateral damage) that main capitalist countries (I don't want this to became another ''spit on USA'' thread but, USA is the main super-power capitalist country) killed during ''bringing democracy and freedom'' to social oriented countries, under dictatorship (read: with some resource they can gain and profit from it) etc.
COMMUNISM: We like to kill ours and some others (Billions and counting)
CAPITALISM: We kill everyone else in quest for more resources (Billions and counting)
It's like constant struggle who will exterminate more, either for ideology or cash. I really fail to see any difference between the two, looking from the death count perspective.
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Also, I saw that EU is stealing some ideas from communism, same as America when things start to crack.
But, Today we are talking about dinosaurs of the establishments, cause things are in constant change, we learn on our mistakes the hard way, but then again, pick up the best and shove the bad, going toward something new. I hope.
COMMUNISM: We like to kill ours and some others (Billions and counting)
CAPITALISM: We kill everyone else in quest for more resources (Billions and counting)
It's like constant struggle who will exterminate more, either for ideology or cash. I really fail to see any difference between the two, looking from the death count perspective.
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Also, I saw that EU is stealing some ideas from communism, same as America when things start to crack.
But, Today we are talking about dinosaurs of the establishments, cause things are in constant change, we learn on our mistakes the hard way, but then again, pick up the best and shove the bad, going toward something new. I hope.
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Bojan, again, name me where we have specifically and government-ordered the slaughter of countless innocents for a selfish reason, and give proof.
Shall we start from the poor Indians (or native Americans) and then go forward?
Very few times were they slaughtered, and it wasn't government ordered or in the name of democracy/capitalism. Soldiers and people actually there ordered it contrary to what the government wanted.
The Soviets systematically eradicated a lot of opposition simply because they disagreed with them.
The Soviets systematically eradicated a lot of opposition simply because they disagreed with them.
The Americans systematically eradicated a lot of Indians simply because they disagreed with them.
fixed it for you.
Come on, like, there is not one government in the world that didn't do something like this in the past?
Thing is, communism was exploited by the dictators for their personal gain. It's not idea that is wrong, it's the man in charge of the idea that makes bad things like that.
If u read the main postulates of the COMMUNISM and CAPITALISM they both sound right... on the paper. But when they get enforced by the wrong mind they turn into monstrosity.
Look at the Peter the Great from Russia, they had monarchy, during his life Russia was in such a prosperity that he basically made the todays super-power country from the peasants stuck in the past.
But, how did he done that? With iron fist (he can stand with Stalin shoulder-to-shoulder) and so many died because of his reforms and expansion.
Maybe this topic should be changed to:
How to use COMMUNISM and CAPITALISM in right way? :P
