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Originally Posted by Mirdesoux View Post
Speed of light exceeded...Huh.

My friend said that if a marshmallow would've hit the earth going slightly faster than the speed of light, it's impact on earth would create an explosion of about ~26 hydrogen bombs.
Yeah, a freakin' marshmallow.


But, the OP's article and the marshmallow intrigues me, I've always figured that anything going faster than the speed of light would turn into light, because it'd be going so fast it's molecules would disintegrate something like that.

Originally Posted by BlakMuffin View Post
I'm not sure if your friend has a freakin' Ph.D in physics or whatever but what you said about the object turning into light is kind of strange. That's because no object can exceed its max velocity, unless you create a shitload of negative energy around it so that you can literally move the fabric of time-space around you and fluctuate it so you literally propelled by the universe in a way. This is really the only chance we have at moving at the speed of light, and it's not even literally us moving at the speed of light. We're staying still, we're just moving the entire universe around us.


He is actually probably right, mass can't move at that speed, so if it approaches lightspeed, it'll probably spagetthify, turn into long strings of energy, of which the easiest would be light, since most others require a medium.

Also, why would an object have a maximum velocity? There was one they assumed to be true and that was the speed of light. Individual speed maxima do not exist, I think you mean terminal velocity. That refers to something with a certain amount of forces working on it, the terminal velocity is when all forces cancel out, so the object stops accelerating.

Also, a marshmallow ( assuming it's 10 grams) will have slightly less than half of the power of the most powerful hydrogen bomb ever made when it hits the earth at light speed.
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i thought only stuff with no mass can exceed the speed of light, namely only light
i think Einstein or some other scientist said that
Well, after Einstein's formulars, e.g t' = t*(1-(vē/cē))^0.5, it's at least mathematical impossible.

And with relative velocity addition it's practically impossible, too. Google it.
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Originally Posted by Meamme0 View Post
He is actually probably right, mass can't move at that speed, so if it approaches lightspeed, it'll probably spagetthify, turn into long strings of energy, of which the easiest would be light, since most others require a medium.

Also, why would an object have a maximum velocity? There was one they assumed to be true and that was the speed of light. Individual speed maxima do not exist, I think you mean terminal velocity. That refers to something with a certain amount of forces working on it, the terminal velocity is when all forces cancel out, so the object stops accelerating.

Also, a marshmallow ( assuming it's 10 grams) will have slightly less than half of the power of the most powerful hydrogen bomb ever made when it hits the earth at light speed.

Naturally, I'm wrong. :/

Well, I WAS talking about terminal velocity when I said maximum velocity (I screw up words like that sometimes). I guess that what you were saying there would be if, by any imaginary chance, a marshmallow DID somehow reach light speed, it would simply heat up so much that it would incinerate and turn into some form of nyeh (I really can't come up with anything else to call it). I don't think the laws of physics concerning speed really apply in space, since there's no air to rub against the mass, but psycore said something about Einstein's calculations which mathematically say that moving at the speed of light is impossible if you have mass and all that complicated stuff. You said that most forms of matter need a medium to move at light speed, does that include plasma too? It doesn't really seem to have mass since it's just a mess of free electrons and electron-less nuclei.

Now what about that moving the universe idea I told you guys about? Is that improbable too? You might have to watch the documentary on it... I forget what it's called, though.
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Originally Posted by psycore View Post
Well, after Einstein's formulars, e.g t' = t*(1-(vē/cē))^0.5, it's at least mathematical impossible.

And with relative velocity addition it's practically impossible, too. Google it.

Yup, that is the whole reason why finding particles moving faster than light would be groundbreaking.
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Originally Posted by psycore View Post
Well, after Einstein's formulars, e.g t' = t*(1-(vē/cē))^0.5, it's at least mathematical impossible.

And with relative velocity addition it's practically impossible, too. Google it.

Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
Yup, that is the whole reason why finding particles moving faster than light would be groundbreaking.

That is indeed one of the reasons why everyone except for a few decent physicists think the the recent discoveries have errors somewhere along the way which account for the difference with what you'd expect.
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Originally Posted by Meamme0 View Post
That is indeed one of the reasons why everyone except for a few decent physicists think the the recent discoveries have errors somewhere along the way which account for the difference with what you'd expect.

That and the margin of error could easily account for the observation.
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actually they forgot to account for relativity. they were using gps satelites and because they are in a different time frame the margin of error went up exactly 60 nanoseconds.

Now they are within the margin of error and this is beginning to look less and less credible.
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If colors depend on light, and something goes faster than the speed of light, how is it visible at all? I guess heat signatures, but you couldn't tell speed from temperature. And if a particle is going faster than another particle and they collide (Which is inevitable with light) then it would literally split a light particle in half, thus creating the most powerful atomic bomb ever, right?
Originally Posted by JesseBean View Post
If colors depend on light, and something goes faster than the speed of light, how is it visible at all? I guess heat signatures, but you couldn't tell speed from temperature. And if a particle is going faster than another particle and they collide (Which is inevitable with light) then it would literally split a light particle in half, thus creating the most powerful atomic bomb ever, right?

1. Color = light of different frequency.
2. Heat = infrared = light of a certain frequency.
3. If a bowling ball hits a pin, the pin isn't shattered into pieces even if the bowling ball is infinite times faster than the pin. Why should a particle split a photon?
4. How is a photon to be splitted?
5. And how does a atomic bomb depend on splitting photons?

I'm not even sure if you were just trolling.
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