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Originally Posted by Turtlenecks View Post
Alright, who's the ignorant guy that made the Stop CISPA banner at the top of the forums?

It's this sort of fear-mongering that causes people to not bother to do their own research before coming to conclusions. Poor show, Toribash.

I know right.

It seems like only a few people in this thread have even read the bill...


The banner is full retard. I'd like to see someone who has actually read the bill come up with an argument as to why it's bad - with citations.
I will be reading it, although I did join the protest and shared it on facebook.(yes, assumed toribash knew what it was doing :P).

I just want to ask a question anyway with regarding to this "Intelligence shall establish procedures to allow elements of the intelligence community to share cyber threat intelligence with private-sector entities and utilities and to encourage the sharing of such intelligence."

Does this mainly mean that the intelligence will be able to share their information with companies like facebook, twitter, and other sites to cooperate?

Ok just finished reading most of it, and it is mainly about the quote I posted above right?
If so then I don't see anything wrong with it. They have the information anyway but they want to share it with private entities to inform them about any possible attacks. Am I right?
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Originally Posted by William View Post
I will be reading it, although I did join the protest and shared it on facebook.(yes, assumed toribash knew what it was doing :P).

Bad assumption XD

Originally Posted by William View Post
I just want to ask a question anyway with regarding to this "Intelligence shall establish procedures to allow elements of the intelligence community to share cyber threat intelligence with private-sector entities and utilities and to encourage the sharing of such intelligence."

Does this mainly mean that the intelligence will be able to share their information with companies like facebook, twitter, and other sites to cooperate?

Ok just finished reading most of it, and it is mainly about the quote I posted above right?
If so then I don't see anything wrong with it. They have the information anyway but they want to share it with private entities to inform them about any possible attacks. Am I right?

Yup, the bill is geared towards giving private entities information on threats so they can improve their security - in the same way that Microsoft keeps everyone informed as to what security problems exist.

The bill does not allow facebook to send your private information to anyone - as people seem to think. Not only that, but the information that gov't entities will be sending to private entities is not private data belonging to a person, it's threat data.




I've yet to see any anti-CISPA argument that is more logical than the average anti-gun argument.
Its bad simply because it gives too much power to the government. Yes it provides limitations. What must be about 15 pages of the bill is describing what it can and cannot be used for. It cannot be used for regulatory purposes(page 7 line 22). On page 19, line 22 it clearly excludes pirated material from being involved in any way. That can zip the lips of people who think its just another sopa. Yes, it clearly explains that it is purely for the purpose of cybersecurity and private entities don't even have to use it if there is a threat. It is completely voluntary. But the reason none of that matters is because this bill will put tools in place that allow the government to track literally anything they want to. Just because the bill says they can't poke into people's private affairs without prior consent doesn't mean that they won't do exactly that.

Simply put, I don't trust the government with my privacy.
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Originally Posted by ImmortalCow View Post
Bad assumption XD


Yup, the bill is geared towards giving private entities information on threats so they can improve their security - in the same way that Microsoft keeps everyone informed as to what security problems exist.

The bill does not allow facebook to send your private information to anyone - as people seem to think. Not only that, but the information that gov't entities will be sending to private entities is not private data belonging to a person, it's threat data.




I've yet to see any anti-CISPA argument that is more logical than the average anti-gun argument.

Okay, then I'm not against it. I wish I could take back my protest someway.
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All they want is to secure the world and gain more money and power from it..

That's bad
It can also increase pirating and hacking /:
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I'm not sure if people actually understand what they're talking about when they post in discussion any longer :/ Literally read two posts on the same side of anti-CISPA, yet with mutually exclusive reasoning.

Also, people like to ignore the fact that most of your privacy is already compromised by being on the Internet. Your "private" information would be best kept off of a giant public forum if you want it to be private. The Internet is essentially one giant public forum. A large amount of people have their basic information already on the Internet because of Facebook and other social media websites, and it only takes a quick Google search to get that information, even with "privacy" options enabled on the website. The average password that people use is batshit retarded, and people often use the exact same password for everything they use on the Internet. You instantly lose all "privacy" to your data the instant somebody punches in one of the thousands of retarded passwords that are proven to be used by tech-illiterate people, a.k.a. the majority of the Internet.

Basic point, you don't have privacy on the Internet. Stop bitching about losing it, because you never had it if you put anything about yourself on the Internet.
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None of their business.. I think it should be allowed to people only with a serious criminal record. Normal civilians who do not cause trouble should not have to be spied upon.
Nosy, nosy government.
Freedom of privacy on the internet? Apparently the US government don't give a shit about others, so they'll scrape through a crapton of websites just to check the usual child trafficker.<---One of the only good reasons to do this.

Desperately trying to get back into TB...

Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
I'm not sure if people actually understand what they're talking about when they post in discussion any longer :/ Literally read two posts on the same side of anti-CISPA, yet with mutually exclusive reasoning.

Also, people like to ignore the fact that most of your privacy is already compromised by being on the Internet. Your "private" information would be best kept off of a giant public forum if you want it to be private. The Internet is essentially one giant public forum. A large amount of people have their basic information already on the Internet because of Facebook and other social media websites, and it only takes a quick Google search to get that information, even with "privacy" options enabled on the website. The average password that people use is batshit retarded, and people often use the exact same password for everything they use on the Internet. You instantly lose all "privacy" to your data the instant somebody punches in one of the thousands of retarded passwords that are proven to be used by tech-illiterate people, a.k.a. the majority of the Internet.

Basic point, you don't have privacy on the Internet. Stop bitching about losing it, because you never had it if you put anything about yourself on the Internet.

Anything I upload to facebook is private.


Derp.
Originally Posted by Reprav View Post
None of their business.. I think it should be allowed to people only with a serious criminal record. Normal civilians who do not cause trouble should not have to be spied upon.

Obviously did not read the bill.
Originally Posted by BloodMach View Post
Nosy, nosy government.
Freedom of privacy on the internet? Apparently the US government don't give a shit about others, so they'll scrape through a crapton of websites just to check the usual child trafficker.<---One of the only good reasons to do this.

Obviously did not read the bill.