Originally Posted by Boredpayne

I'm so bad at expressing myself that Jsnuff understood easily and took the time to explain it to you.

Your false dichotomies are as charmingly childish as ever, but at this point we both know you're not debating in good faith anyway. In fact, you never have been, pretty much ever. You mostly come to these threads to get high on your own self-assured certainty.

Regardless, you don't seem to understand that the intent doesn't really matter so long as it's still offensive. If you want to avoid offense, don't use a word that has a history of abuse and connotations of anger and oppression.

I don't think that use of 'gay' is considered offensive by reasonable people.

If you want to avoid offense, don't use a word that has a history of abuse and connotations of anger and oppression.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

"people who disagree with me are just wrong"

Another great and thoughtful contribution.


Please explain how unreasonable this is.

I don't think the 12 year olds playing CoD calling each other 'gay' mean any hate towards homosexuals, it has lost all connotation.

As always, if you are offended by something, that's great, stay away from people who say it.

But you can't stop people from using something they view as harmless.

A few years ago there was an add on tv that said "bugger" 20 or so times. Sure, some older people were offended, but it's not a big deal.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

Except for the many times "faggot" is followed by "suck a dick," and other phrases that clearly indicate it is still used as a tool to demean homosexuals.
You do not get to decide what connotations a word has and whether you mean to associate them with it.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

Except for the many times "faggot" is followed by "suck a dick," and other phrases that clearly indicate it is still used as a tool to demean homosexuals.
You do not get to decide what connotations a word has and whether you mean to associate them with it.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

Do you have any idea how much you reek of smug condescension? "If you don't like the United States, get out." Both of these ideas are incredibly stupid for the same reasons.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

Right. And no one is trying to prevent you from using slurs, they're just asking you to stop.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

Nah man, if only a few people are hurt, it ain't a big deal.

I'd say "That's so gay" would be the homosexual equivillant of "That's so straight" for heterosexuals, but homosexuals tend to be a bit more sensitive because of all the little homophobic children they grew up with, and they are "different" (I do not mean that in a demeaning way, I'm just stating it is out of the norm)

> clearly indiciate
> used to demean homosexuals
Right, because homosexuals suck dicks, I get it. Obviously anyone who says "faggot" or "suck a dick" is demeaning homosexuals. I mean, too bad that isn't true at all. There are some connotations that people should be aware of, but definitely not offended by.
Some people are obviously so insecure in their homosexuality that they think people using "gay" is such a huge threat to their identity (which in their mind, homosexual = good) that they have to stop people using it at all costs! It reminds me a lot of "What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux".

That's how society works most of the time. I know you have your ideals, but the truth is you can't just make a shitty ad campaign and change how people speak.

That's right, it really isn't a big deal. Some people are over sensitive, and they force their ideals on everyone else. It's a bother for everyone else.

I still think it's funny that you are OK with saying "dumb" or "stupid" because you personally don't care, but if it's "gay" then oh no, someone might be offended!

You seem very personally vested in the topic, so let me tell you the correct way to handle the situation:
If someone calls you gay or uses gay around you and you are offended say "hey, that offends me, please don't do it". If they stop doing it around you, great. If they don't, then an ad campaign probably wouldn't help anyway.

Another point of interest: "jock" is not offensive, but "gay" is? These people obviously are only interested in their own interests, throwing words like "dumb", "stupid" or "jock" around so wantonly. These people are so "gay guy that sucks a dick"! (apparently people say that)

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

Let me know when somebody's person is attacked because they are a muscular athlete, and I'll take this seriously.

It was kind of the point of the whole thread. Perhaps when you and Cow are done spewing on and on about whatever tangent you guys went off on... you can provide feedback to the actual issue at hand.

The hypocrisy of the campaign and their attempt to fight stereotypes with stereotypes. I.E. Assuming all jocks use the word "gay" and can't complete a sentence.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

There is no argument here, just a long-winded, smarmy way of saying "you're wrong."

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

"Yeah, maybe I'm doing wrong, but that's just how society works, maaaan."

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

STOP FORCING YOUR IDEALS ON ME BY POLITELY INFORMING ME THAT'S OFFENSIVE TO YOU

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

I have never been aware of anyone who felt personally targeted by the word "stupid."
If you happen to be mentally challenged and you still feel that the word is directly associated with you, I apologize.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

Hahaha, are you trying to guess my sexuality? Not that it matters, but you're wrong. And let me tell you something: your advice is literally worth less than shit to me.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

Let me know when somebody's person is attacked because they are a muscular athlete, and I'll take this seriously.