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Originally Posted by DesertPunk View Post
well i can see how you would think that, but you said conspiracy theorist in general are stupid.

yea cuz they are . And when did i say the government was perfect? I love when people just assume i think something like you dp
Originally Posted by damasta97 View Post
yea cuz they are . And when did i say the government was perfect? I love when people just assume i think something like you dp

Why do you think that all conspiracy theorists are stupid?

Do you believe wealthy men who graduated from Yale and got on top (walking on heads of others in the process) are divine, pure beings? You think they would not dare to kill some of their own people if it means they profit from it?

Again, I am NOT claiming any government did anything of sorts, but i am honestly very surprised (and perplexed) by the amount of people all around who take to the words of the Government as they would to those of God....

If i love America, but don't like/am suspicious of the American government (for example, not saying i am) does it make me anti-American? A traitor? No.
Last edited by Odlov; Sep 1, 2008 at 08:12 AM.
Originally Posted by Odlov View Post
Why do you think that all conspiracy theorists are stupid?

Do you believe wealthy men who graduated from Yale and got on top (walking on heads of others in the process) are divine, pure beings? You think they would not dare to kill some of their own people if it means they profit from it?

Again, I am NOT claiming any government did anything of sorts, but i am honestly very surprised (and perplexed) by the amount of people all around who take to the words of the Government as they would to those of God....

If i love America, but hate the American government (for example, not saying i am) does it make me anti-American? A traitor? No.

Now that is a conspiracy theorist if i have ever seen one.
Originally Posted by DarkJak View Post
sigh...american ignorance

Well, you've won me over with your concise arguments. I applaud your rationality. Especially since there is no indication as to what you are replying to.
Originally Posted by hidingwarior View Post
well, 95% of conspiracy theories ARE stupid.

This video is part of the 5%.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI&eurl
"When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend."
-U.S. Army Training Notice
*breaks door*
Originally Posted by Clbck View Post
Well, you've won me over with your concise arguments. I applaud your rationality. Especially since there is no indication as to what you are replying to.

sigh...american ignorance
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Wow...Ckblk..you expect this to convince me...first of all how did they know the temperature it burned at, there was no tempeture readings taken that day or and debis properly analised... and its fucking popular mechanics, how do you know they wernt "persueded" to give that information. there is alot more but I know i wont convince you.
Originally Posted by Inu View Post
Wow...Ckblk..you expect this to convince me...first of all how did they know the temperature it burned at, there was no tempeture readings taken that day or and debis properly analised... and its fucking popular mechanics, how do you know they wernt "persueded" to give that information. there is alot more but I know i wont convince you.

Now, you see, ladies and gentlemen, this is what we call a devotee. They are so sure they are right that it is impossible to convince them. If I was to give this man irrefutable proof, not that I have with this article, he would still deny it.

A. You're right, there were no temperature readings taken. They gave a range of temperatures, and the upper range that jet fuel burns at would weaken the steel sufficiently (reducing it's effectiveness at 50%). This is something you conspiracy theorists have said is IMPOSSIBLE.

B. And Popular Mechanics is peer reviewed. This means that if an expert reads something in it that is false, the article author gets owned. Now, if you don't have any refutations to the points in the article, we'll have to consider them correct, won't we? They did, after all, consult real experts, and not people who used wikipedia and google to find information.

C. I'm fairly open minded. I don't claim to know what happened there. But this is what the facts have shown so far. If you have nothing further, then this is the truth as far as I know.