I'm strictly against infant or child circumcision, since it's an irreversible violation of the child's bodily integrity without a valid medical reason. Apparently circumcision confers some protection against STD's, but people don't become sexually active until well into their teens, and until that time aren't at risk of STDs anyway. Once the kid reaches the age of consent, he can decide for himself whether to have a piece of his penis amputated or not. I have a hunch most would opt out.
Originally Posted by Boredpayne
Presuming that the results of a biological study hold no weight in the "developed world" because they took place in Africa is
a) really, really stupid
b) uncomfortably bordering on racism
It's not either of those things. People in less developed countries tend to have lower levels of hygeine and sexual health. That's why the medical effects of circumcision in Africa are far more acute.
It's a biological problem sure, but it's impacted by sociocultural factors too, which is why we see the difference.
Originally Posted by Boredpayne
Presuming that the results of a biological study hold no weight in the "developed world" because they took place in Africa is
a) really, really stupid
b) uncomfortably bordering on racism
if you live in a place where you can wash your dick every day with gallons of clean drinking water then any health benefits from having an exposed penis are literally bullshit
the god
People also believe in some African countries that raping virgin babies will cure them of HIV. Think I saw that one on National Geographic.
Pretty much this. I can understand the logic behind circumcision in low-hygiene areas though, not letting the dirt sit there can save you some infections.
It ain't racist if it's true.
Originally Posted by TheGod
if you live in a place where you can wash your dick every day with gallons of clean drinking water then any health benefits from having an exposed penis are literally bullshit
Pretty much this. I can understand the logic behind circumcision in low-hygiene areas though, not letting the dirt sit there can save you some infections.
Originally Posted by Boredpayne
b) uncomfortably bordering on racism
It ain't racist if it's true.
Originally Posted by Ele
People in less developed countries tend to have lower levels of hygeine and sexual health. That's why the medical effects of circumcision in Africa are far more acute.
What's really disappointing about this is and the other replies is that a single second of research would be enough to dismiss this.
The spread of AIDS is generally considered to be relatively independent of these vague catch-alls of hygiene and "sexual health," and far more dependent upon the use or absence of protection, which is the widely considered the cause of the African HIV epidemic.
Here's information on how circumcision in particular probably affects HIV transmission as strictly a result of biology:
http://journals.lww.com/aidsonline/F...current.7.aspx
tl;dr is that the foreskin probably undergoes microtears during sex, facilitating the spread of HIV.
Here's a CDC article on how to prevent AIDS, a WHO fact sheet (see: risk factors), and a Mayo Clinic source:
http://www.cdc.gov/actagainstaids/ba...revention.html
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs360/en/
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...n/con-20013732
Note that none of these suggest "avoid being dirty like the Africans." If hygiene significantly impacts prevention, why does every single authority on the topic fail to even mention it?
The assertion that the specific groups are too dirty for their results to matter in the developed world is at best fundamentally misplaced due to the nature of the topic, and at worst outright bigoted.
The other replies are similarly uninformed and so deserve no mention.
EDIT: Odlov is on the money with this one. Full agreement.
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