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Universities that give out online courses put them on this site. Some of the courses are priced and some are free.
Originally Posted by Lampito View Post
To broaden your beautiful minds, Check this out

Universities that give out online courses put them on this site. Some of the courses are priced and some are free.

Yea there's some good stuff around.
Another great resource which I've been meaning to look into more. Anyway yea, moral of the story is that there's a looot of info out there.
In addition, lots of companies will give you free/student software and free/cheap services if you're a student. I highly recommend this to everyone.
Hi, name is Raven, I've started coding 5 years ago and I'm always trying to get better on what I do, got to learn quite a few languages over the time but the ones I'm more familiarized with are PHP, Java and C#.

What are some good languages and resources that beginners can use to get into it?

I'd recommend C# for starters, search for some beginners tutorial on YouTube and then, once you know at least the very basic of some coding, try to solve a common problem you or anyone has, sometime you'll get into questions, solve them somehow, ask someone for help or Google about it. Read some documentations and other peoples code, try to understand them and how they work.

Where have you applied this knowledge professionally or in your own time?

I'm one of the Toribash's forum developers, I do some freelancing jobs but most of my projects are just personal ones, 4fun, to help with something i must do or even just to learn.
Originally Posted by dista View Post
Wow, that's a lot. You make in a day what I kinda make in a week.

Unless you are freelancing billables isn't the same as profit.

Originally Posted by dista View Post
It's not that I don't like django, I'm indifferent to it. I can achieve the same thing with other technologies that I'm more familiar with and it doesn't have anything remarkable for me to learn it as my go-to backend.

I usually get paid per project, not hour. And that ranges from 50$ for fixing something broken to >500$ for an entire website. I'd say I work pretty cheap and that's how I attract my clients.

How did you guys get into this business? Did you start as freelancers or you got a full time job as a junior?

I see, there's not much incentive to learn something that does the same as what you are using afterall.

I think your pricing is quite good.

I always freelanced through school separate of my job, but I think if you can get a job that teaches you from the ground up it would be nice. Sadly it seems many jobs want you to be ultra specialised, so if your team is working on a lamp stack you are working on one tiny portion only.

Originally Posted by Eleeleth View Post
but mostly I work in Django.

Lots of django positions are popping up nowadays... I don't know if I want to go into them or look for something else. How do you find working full time as a webdev and with python and with django?
<Faint> the rules have been stated quite clearly 3 times now from high staff
Originally Posted by dista View Post
I am a freelance web developer. I consider myself a multistack programmer, meaning that I can code in multiple environments. My main 3 stacks are Meteor.js + Sass/Less, Scala with Play Framework + Sass/Less and lastly Laravel + good ol css. I've also tried Django and a Golang library but they didn't impress me.

In 2015 I finished highschool and I decided that I should stay at home one year to make some cash before I go to university next year. But I'm doing really well (relative to Romanian living standatds), I'm making up to 4k $ per month. And I'm seriously considering not going to university and raising money to open a web development agency.

Other than that, I've developed a rudimentary entity component system game engine in C++ with SFML, OpenGL and Assimp. It's nothing fancy, you can load 3D models and transform them. It also has a cool camera system that I implemented myself without reading any stuff beforehand on camera systems. Actually it sucks real bad.

Also last month I got into Rust and I'm developing a hobby OS. I'll never finish it probably.

you should come in #foobar on IRC

I'm learning Ruby and Rails, and the plan is to also get more familiar with html, CSS, and hopefully JavaScript. I quit my job a day ago with the hope of finding an apprenticeship in my area so I'm fulltime learning until that happens or I run out of money. I'd say I'm self-learning but Eleeleth (roommate) is sort of guiding me along and helping me set goals so thankfully I'm not going in blind.
Last edited by KiTFoX; Jan 14, 2016 at 03:18 PM.
Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
Unless you are freelancing billables isn't the same as profit.


I see, there's not much incentive to learn something that does the same as what you are using afterall.

I think your pricing is quite good.

I always freelanced through school separate of my job, but I think if you can get a job that teaches you from the ground up it would be nice. Sadly it seems many jobs want you to be ultra specialised, so if your team is working on a lamp stack you are working on one tiny portion only.


Lots of django positions are popping up nowadays... I don't know if I want to go into them or look for something else. How do you find working full time as a webdev and with python and with django?


I love my job, but I also have the fortune of working in a developer founded startup. I'm also fortunate to find a good django job in what is really a ruby/rails town.

As far as django goes, I actually migrated to it from a bespoke framework at my last job (don't fucking ask oh god), so it's been a quality of life improvement in many ways.
<~suomynona> TITS OR ELEELETH
When I was young I watched the matrix, and so obviously the very next thing I did was google

"How to become a Hacker" :blush:

Don't judge, you were young once too ;-;.

Anyways I found this

www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

It is quite interesting, and I would recommend it for anyone who'd like to start coding.

Following it's advice, I first learnt HTML5 and CSS3 from www.htmldog.com . I DEFINATELY reccomend it, the tutorials are easy to follow and fun, and the site itself is well designed, making the whole experience that much more enjoyable. I used notepad, but have since moved onto Notepad++, which is great.

I then moved on to Python coding in Linux. This taught me a lot about using Terminal, as well as giving me a good idea of how to use Loops and other logics.
Python is a great first language. It's easy to use (quite High Level), and most of the commands are intuitive.
For Python on windows I recommend Wing IDE. It's a great workspace for coding. Also it's free, which is always nice.

At the moment, I code primarily in C++. It's a beautiful language, versatile and powerful. Code::Blocks is a choice IDE for cpp. Also free.

I've researched smaller, lightweight languages like tcl and Lua, but haven't gotten very far in them. I find that Lua especially has much less Support on le interwebs, which is a bit of a turn-off.

Oh, and I'm completely self-taught off the internet. I have never received formal training, and therefore can't really compare the two different options.
I assume that it is harder to lose interest and quit learning a language if you have paid for the classes, which is probably a good thing.

much luvs, Mylk