smh hi ele. i can see you're still doing fine. How's the music thing going?
also, 5 years ago staff was.... odd. Not a highpoint in the history things tbh.
Personally, I feel that if you sat the whole range of each staff group side by side (Help Squad excluded since there is no comparison from said rewind) i'd think 99% of people would see an obvious improvement.
(was part of both ok i have more than just a fleeting idea/opinion to base this off of)
also unicorn is chill what's the thing against him here smh
also, 5 years ago staff was.... odd. Not a highpoint in the history things tbh.
Personally, I feel that if you sat the whole range of each staff group side by side (Help Squad excluded since there is no comparison from said rewind) i'd think 99% of people would see an obvious improvement.
(was part of both ok i have more than just a fleeting idea/opinion to base this off of)
also unicorn is chill what's the thing against him here smh
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24/07/2019. I'll find you again my friend.
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Wrt 5 years ago, the comparison SkulFuk made was in relation to the communication between devs and upper staff. I reckon you're right that staff today are less (for lack of a better word) 'nuts' than the ones in the past. Over time, I suppose a code of decorum has somewhat developed in response to the actions of a certain few nutjobs. Staff are much more accountable than they were, and there's even a board for people to vent their staff complaints publicly (even if, at times, this board is only for show). There's a different expectation on staff than there used to be.
All that said, I reckon we'd both agree that Skul's concern about the lack of communication from Hampa is valid. Tbh, I think if Hampa were more invested in this community he'd be able to make better and bolder decisions with respect to sustaining and growing TB. What are your thoughts about Hampa's lack of involvement with this community? You have more exact information about this, so what do you reckon? This question isn't just for Icky - Would any other admin/admin+, past or present, care to comment on this topic? Are we happy about the creator of this game and his actions (or lack thereof)?
Wrt 5 years ago, the comparison SkulFuk made was in relation to the communication between devs and upper staff. I reckon you're right that staff today are less (for lack of a better word) 'nuts' than the ones in the past. Over time, I suppose a code of decorum has somewhat developed in response to the actions of a certain few nutjobs. Staff are much more accountable than they were, and there's even a board for people to vent their staff complaints publicly (even if, at times, this board is only for show). There's a different expectation on staff than there used to be.
All that said, I reckon we'd both agree that Skul's concern about the lack of communication from Hampa is valid. Tbh, I think if Hampa were more invested in this community he'd be able to make better and bolder decisions with respect to sustaining and growing TB. What are your thoughts about Hampa's lack of involvement with this community? You have more exact information about this, so what do you reckon? This question isn't just for Icky - Would any other admin/admin+, past or present, care to comment on this topic? Are we happy about the creator of this game and his actions (or lack thereof)?
Last edited by notEle; Jun 6, 2018 at 04:07 PM.
From all this, past staff and even present just stained the staff name, if it was a perfect system where everyone is treated like an actual person instead, this wouldn't be brought up every so often,
I do agree a lot with @notele, I couldn't put my thoughts into words but what was said seems pretty spot on, there's obviously power abuse, you can't even argue or having an opposing conversation to a staff member on a human level, they pull the "i'm in power so I'm ending this argument and if you don't comply you're being punished" route, it's perhaps the only reason I don't even try involving myself with most staff unless I really need the help, not to say I haven't met any cool staff. Their view goes, you can barely change it.
There really needs to be a change though, I don't have the answers on how, and of course a lot of players are also toxic in the toribash community so perhaps in the eyes of someone with staff privileges, you don't know how to really react to someone without thinking they may be toxic or a decent person, I will admit, staff aren't as toxic as before, but there's always a new crowd of players so being toxic either way is bad.
I do agree a lot with @notele, I couldn't put my thoughts into words but what was said seems pretty spot on, there's obviously power abuse, you can't even argue or having an opposing conversation to a staff member on a human level, they pull the "i'm in power so I'm ending this argument and if you don't comply you're being punished" route, it's perhaps the only reason I don't even try involving myself with most staff unless I really need the help, not to say I haven't met any cool staff. Their view goes, you can barely change it.
There really needs to be a change though, I don't have the answers on how, and of course a lot of players are also toxic in the toribash community so perhaps in the eyes of someone with staff privileges, you don't know how to really react to someone without thinking they may be toxic or a decent person, I will admit, staff aren't as toxic as before, but there's always a new crowd of players so being toxic either way is bad.
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I don't exist
Originally Posted by duck
Skul is not around on the discord and that's most likely why he feels like we are in the dark about it.
Discord is one means of communicating, not the only one.
Need a GM? Tell user they're all on Discord. User isn't impressed.
Different user asks me for info on TB Next, I tell them images are being passed around on Discord. That also doesn't seem to please them.
So on so forth.
Sure things may have improved in the past couple of months, and the recent releases even get a news thread with proper info.
Yet I'm getting complained at by users over poor dev transparency. Why? Because it's all on Discord. Hell I'm not even a developer here and I get the finger pointed at me because the info isn't available without using a 3rd party program.
Same applies when they want to get hold of someone.
Personally, I agree with them.
TB Next images from Discord posted in it's thread by users - take a minute to let that sink in. USERS.
Of course there's no context info to go along with them, but hey, it's better than nothing right?
At least someone put in the effort, shame it had to be the community yet again. I shouldn't have to be pointing out this shit.
<Erf> SkulFuk: gf just made a toilet sniffing joke at me
<Erf> i think
<Erf> i think i hate you
