sun came up so I got less than an hour of sleep oh well... present time! xD lol..... I never said I was applying.... I said I was considering.... like probing and looking around meeting members not just jumping into something blindly.....making sure I don't join a cult or stuck up snobs or rude bratty kids with anonymity to hide behind...Not saying that is what all of you guys are don't get me wrong they are just common online encounters.... sorry I like to plan things out that contradict your forum "honor"...Im not exactly sure how I offended every clan though lol....