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Originally Posted by Mapleleaf View Post
And that justifies being a dick to random people for no reason?
Thank god I'm not one of you people.

That's primarily internet Atheists right? I haven't met asshole Atheists in real life. There are assholes in every belief system of course, but I've met very few asshole Atheists IRL.

Originally Posted by jessebean View Post
if your in a big town like chicago, or seattle no one will bother you,

Nope. I live in Chicago. Waiting for the bus, sitting on the train, inside of White Castle, fapping to hentai at home, Jehova's Witnesses jump out of the bushes at every turn. They're not even waiting till Saturday anymore FFS. I'm sitting on the bus, and the woman I'm sitting next to just turns her head to me and says "you believe in God?"
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Don't feel like making a whole new post, so I copy/pasted another one from a post I typed a few days ago.

I was raised by devout Pentecostal Christians on my mother's side and devout Roman Catholic on my father's side. I have three grandparents who work for the church exclusively, and one of them recently retired from being a pastor. I am a nihlist. If this does not speak of the absurdity of the Christian faith in a benevolent God who bore a human savior, of a man made from dirt and a woman made from a rib, and a universe created in seven days (you can dispute that one, because modern Creationist theories state that the universe was created in a relativistic bubble of time, and Earth has been around for a mere 4,000 years), then I am not sure what does. I have decimated a Baptist priest in a formal debate with him on the theistic dais and I on the opposite end of the spectrum- I have convinced many that the existence of God and religion are a falsehood that they serve only the purpose of instilling intolerance and a relativistic form of morality. I have read Hawkings A Brief History of Time, Darwin's Origin of Species, Kaku's works on string theory, and many others- and I have read the Bible, the Torah, and the Qur'an, and other religious works. The answer to the creation of the universe and life is one that will be found in physics and biology- not in gods and parables. We are but a speck in the universe, and when we all die, not one thing in that infinite and unknowable vacuum will shed a tear. There is no god, no meaning to life save that which we assign to it, and morality is all relative.
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You're all going to hell. These people are trying to save you from an eternity in pugatory and this is how you repay them? By making fun of them on an internet forum?
Good riddance.

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Originally Posted by Mapleleaf View Post
Funny how you manage to use everything out of context.
There was a reason that made god plague the Egyptian race. They enslaved god's people and tortured them. They were warned about what would happen if they wouldn't release the Hebrews, they just didn't want to listen.

Murder is murder regardless of whether the executioner finds it justified. If i was around prior to WW2 and managed to shoot Hitler before he formed Nazi party, i would be a murderer. Would it make me feel bad? Not a bit. But i would have broken "the sacred" biblical commandment.
Amazing how you don't see how many things are wrong with Egypt story.
God openly favors certain group of people over others.
God is OK with slavery everywhere else but when Egyptians held Jews as slaves. God kills every firstborn of every Egyptian family, even though Pharaoh was the one who had anything to do with it. But then, he dished even less justified punishment after original sin, so hey. Nothing new.

Plus there are many other instances where god orders people to murder and rape others (thus breaking his commandments).

I've yet to come across an atheist not randomly calling me ignorant, stupid, dumb or a hypocrite for being a Christian. And I'm not talking about agnostic people or just people that don't care about anything like that, I'm talking about serious atheists, like Odlov.

I'm agnostic atheist. Care to point me where i called anyone ignorant, stupid, dumb or a hypocrite? If i do want to insult someone i usually do it subtly - blunt name calling is not my style.
Last edited by Odlov; Oct 9, 2009 at 01:44 AM.
Originally Posted by Odlov View Post
So what? Would you say the same thing about Hitler? After all, that's all he did too. Ordered deaths of all those who didn't fit his criteria of a good human being.

What would you consider to be scary, then?
It's not like god was unimaginative about how he killed people either; he ordered to break baby skulls on rocks (what the fuck??), rape & kill married women, gave boils and plagues and summoned locust swarms, etc etc. It's as if he was having fun experimenting.

1. Hitler was definetly not God.
2. God didn't order the deaths of millions of people at once. And when he ordered deaths it wasn't discrimination (Hitlers case: Being Jewish), it was because the sinned.
3. God never ordered rape.
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Originally Posted by footside View Post
3. God never ordered rape.

Actually he did. He said that any city that disobeyed him would have its women ravaged.

Also, mapleleaf, I didn't call you an idiot, I was just explaining the thought process. Thanks for biting my head off.
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Originally Posted by footside View Post
1. Hitler was definetly not God.

Oh? What's the difference? How about i declare Hitler a perfect being and you try to prove me wrong.

2. God didn't order the deaths of millions of people at once.

Wow, what an argument! Not at once! What difference that makes again?
For the record, god killed roughly 2 million people in the bible, many of which were innocent children. Still short of hitler, but there is no reason to assume that only the deaths recorded in the bible were caused by Him.

And when he ordered deaths it wasn't discrimination (Hitlers case: Being Jewish), it was because the sinned.

Read a few post above, where me and Mapleleaf are talking about God killing Egyptians because their leader (wasn't democracy back then, either) would not let Jews go free. Plus it's still a murder regardless of how justified/not justified it is in someone's eyes.

3. God never ordered rape.

Isaiah 13:16 "Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

I rest my case



Originally Posted by SmileyJones View Post
Atheist here, wishing you all a good day and a pleasant night's rest. May you be blessed with good fortune and good health in the coming months.

Too damn peaceful >:V
Last edited by Odlov; Oct 9, 2009 at 01:59 AM.
Originally Posted by waphtuos View Post
You're all going to hell. These people are trying to save you from an eternity in pugatory and this is how you repay them? By making fun of them on an internet forum?
Good riddance.

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This is exactly what I meant by pushing people away from christianity.
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I've met raging, angry-at-life atheists who's argument consists of nothing but a colorful slur of explicatives, but I've also met atheists who are very understanding, kind, and intelligent.

Hey, that sounds similar. Just replace the fffff- ragers with people who share their beliefs, and you have Christians. And a good number of other religions in the world, too.

I think both sides have something to get angry over, and it's just best to acknowledge that and move on, as hate and bitterness don't get too much accomplished.