Toribash
Some of Paganini's works are faster than most guitarists. I can't play this fast yet, but I know this piece.
And when Vivaldi has a solo violinist in his pieces it's normally faster. Actiually Baroque is just fast in general.





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Jason Becker could barely play this one. Though it was cool his sound was extremely dirty.

May I remind that Jimi has probably never played the solo exactly like that again. All of his solos live are pretty improvised. Also If I were to do that solo I would do it in my own way. I wouldn't want to intentionally sound like another guitarist.

No, I'm not amazed by shredders. I like the sound that a lot of them have. Sounding fast and doing fast solos isn't really that hard, but you have to know how many times they hit a note and for solos with an insane amount of rhythm sound cool.

If you have mastered playing fast you must have mastered playing slow or slower than regular shredding tempo.
If you also played a live show fast without a mistake then that's like what the fuck, man.
Last edited by T0ribush; Feb 18, 2010 at 10:39 PM.
Paganini isn't baroque. It's classical. (after baroque, before romantic)
Vivaldi, yes, I can agree, even though it's pretty late baroque.

And yes, I kinda agree with both you and harl in a way.
Originally Posted by T0ribush View Post

May I remind that Jimi has probably never played the solo exactly like that again. All of his solos live are pretty improvised. Also If I were to do that solo I would do it in my own way. I wouldn't want to intentionally sound like another guitarist.

No, I'm not amazed by shredders. I like the sound that a lot of them have. Sounding fast and doing fast solos isn't really that hard, but you have to know how many times they hit a note and for solos with an insane amount of rhythm sound cool.

If you have mastered playing fast you must have mastered playing slow or slower than regular shredding tempo.
If you also played a live show fast without a mistake then that's like what the fuck, man.

bolded phrases are where i disagree.
Being able to sound like other guitarists is critical to getting better. Blindly stumbling around in the dark playing random notes until you develop your own style is a load of crap. No great player ever did that. The greats of today stand on the shoulders of the greats from the past. You take the best that has gone before and then, only once you understand that, do you put your own touch into it. I know a guitarist who plays a lot of hendrix, and comes up with these incredible fills and instrumentals out of nowhere, which kick the hell outta mine and stay true to the spirit of the original song at the same time - so i asked him how he does it, and guess what. He learns the tracks note for note as hendrix played them on his best take, to the point where he can pull out a carbon copy of the track, and THEN he plays them his own way - sounds a lot more awesome than the guys who pretend that they can come up with their own version without even knowing the original.

tl;dr you can't improve on a song and do a quality version of your own without knowing the original - the better you know it, the better your own version will be.

And the rest -
Shredding fast and doing fast solo's isn't easy at all. Just because playing a slow solo that really captures your audience is incredibly difficult it doesn't make the other stuff easy at all. Knowing how to play fast is a very useful skill to get that 'wow' factor into your playing, but it has to be used properly (take gary moore as an excellent example of a player who knows how and when to play fast, and dragonforce as an example of a band that doesn't understand how to use speed properly).

The third bolded phrase was the most wrong for a couple of reasons. 1- you play differently when you play fast and when you play at regular tempo - your pick attack changes a lot, and you don't mess about with vibrato. As well as this, most fast players use a lot of compression and distortion, which makes playing with dynamics impossible. When i talk about playing slow, i don't mean the way you play slow when you practice something to play it faster, i'm talking about playing at a deliberately slow pace. Sure it's easier to get the notes out, but past absolute beginner level there's a lot more to playing than that.
Though I slightly disagree with you on the first paragraph because look at Chuck Shuldiner of Death he pretty much pulled the whole sound of Death Metal out of his ass when he was about 16 as well as Possessed.
If you guys have never checked out this guy(tommy emmanuel), You should he's amazing. One of the 3 guitar masters chet atkins named. Also This is an amazing jazz guitarist who could very well become one of the best guitarists in the coming years, Kurt Rosenwinkel, listen for the guitar solo.

Obviously I am into jazz so my opinion is bias.
Tommy can play that Acoustic very well. I like the sound he gets with the finger picks.
He's pretty good, but I think Chris Poland overall is a better jazz guitarist.
H4rl3quin: I totally agree with you. Playing slow parts can be really tough. Especially for a wind instrument player the wind technique becomes the more important the slower a piece is. And a good sound is more than half a win.
My sax teacher e.g. can put so much feeling into just one note that impresses you more than some very fast solos.
Don't take me serious. If you feel offended... I'm just kidding.
Everybody has that special note they can play extremely well and a wind instrument is no way comparable to guitar, maybe vocals as it's considered an instrument.

Shredding under control is o.k in my books unless you're trying to break a record and playing fast just to do that.
a wind instrument is no way comparable to guitar

Yes, I know that. But the fact that slow parts are hard to play is the same for both.
Don't take me serious. If you feel offended... I'm just kidding.