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You know, if another theory cropped up, which slowly gained more and more evidence, more so than evolution, and explained the effects/evidence logically, everyone would change to that theory, no?

I think it's a little presumptuous to say that it does most definitely exist, when anything and everything in science isn't certain, by that I mean if an alternate theory disproved another more known theory with more evidence for it, then the alternate theory would become 'fact'.
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Originally Posted by sireal View Post
You know, if another theory cropped up, which slowly gained more and more evidence, more so than evolution, and explained the effects/evidence logically, everyone would change to that theory, no?

I think it's a little presumptuous to say that it does most definitely exist, when anything and everything in science isn't certain, by that I mean if an alternate theory disproved another more known theory with more evidence for it, then the alternate theory would become 'fact'.

Except evolution is not a theory. Centuries of observation and study has proven beyond all doubt that the process happens. Now, there are various theories within the area, like whether all life on Earth has a common ancestor or if there are multiple, but evolution itself is not.
Originally Posted by sireal View Post
You know, if another theory cropped up, which slowly gained more and more evidence, more so than evolution, and explained the effects/evidence logically, everyone would change to that theory, no?

I think it's a little presumptuous to say that it does most definitely exist, when anything and everything in science isn't certain, by that I mean if an alternate theory disproved another more known theory with more evidence for it, then the alternate theory would become 'fact'.

Obviously.

But since no such competing theory exists, and there is overwhelming evidence and reviews in favor of evolution, it is at this moment a scientific fact.

Seems like a pointless theoretical situation to discuss; "if evolution didn't exist then some other theory would exist"... It's obvious...
Originally Posted by Dalliance View Post
Except evolution is not a theory. Centuries of observation and study has proven beyond all doubt that the process happens. Now, there are various theories within the area, like whether all life on Earth has a common ancestor or if there are multiple, but evolution itself is not.

Originally Posted by ImmortalCow View Post
Obviously.

But since no such competing theory exists, and there is overwhelming evidence and reviews in favor of evolution, it is at this moment a scientific fact.

Seems like a pointless theoretical situation to discuss; "if evolution didn't exist then some other theory would exist"... It's obvious...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

First off, you're both using the wrong definition of theory.

Secondly, there are no 'scientific facts', especially in other fluctuating areas of science.
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I wasn't arguing semantics mate, I was throwing that into the mix of discussion, leading to maybe evolution as a theory could be disproved, instead of being solid state facts, which is true. Not so much disproved, but yeah.

Read what I say (and anyone else for that matter), and understand what I/anyone is saying, and where I/anyone is coming from. Don't blatantly disregard what I'm saying.
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This thread is about evolution, not the nature of scientific theories. I am disregarding what sireal is saying because it concerns the nature of scientific theories, and how they can be replaced by other theories. My only answer to this was said by dalliance already:

"Obviously"

That's great and all, but we need not concern ourselves with the potentiality that evolution can be replaced by other theories. This does not matter.
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Originally Posted by sireal View Post
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

First off, you're both using the wrong definition of theory.

Secondly, there are no 'scientific facts', especially in other fluctuating areas of science.

If I just said theory then the trolls say "it's just a theory" because they don't understand what a scientific theory is...

The term 'scientific fact' has been used for a long time to curb such... ignorance.


What a boring post, are you saying that evolution is a fluctuating area or are you just saying something useless and offtopic?