I'd rather not base the time he gets in rehabilitation of a set time. Everybody is different and learns, develops, and recovers at different rates. If anything, I'd slap on at least a few more years, but it all depends on his progress through the whole thing. Although, that's only if he is considered insane, which might not happen.

Chronic sycopathy is not something you "get better" from. If that's what's going on, he should be institutionalized for life for the benefit of public safety.

It'll cost the state a ton of taxpayer money, but I guess that's better than lobotomizing a broken mind, according to modern medical morality. :/

There are plenty of drugs that stimulate the amygdala in such a way that they make them 'normal', so to speak. The amygdala, in individuals afflicted with psychopathy, is usually deformed, and does not function as intended. Certain chemicals in certain dosages manage to regulate its function. If it is irreparable through constant medication, there are always other treatments. I've had friends who have been clinically diagnosed with just about everything you can imagine. Like 2 psychopaths, a paranoid schizophrenic, a schizoid, like 3 borderlines, and multiple psychotics, who are all arsenal fans, coincidentally. You do not need to keep someone institutionalized for life if you teach them how to properly manage their affliction.
http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/arti...ticleid=210298
http://ramas.co.uk/report3.pdf

It may not permanently fix their problems, but, as with any other chronic disease, taking your medicine does a damn good job at making sure you maintain a state of normality. Anyone can be a functioning member of society if we help them through their afflictions. Say, Hamster, if you have a child, and the child ends up being a paranoid schizophrenic, would you not want that child to live a normal life? Would you refuse that child treatment, and education in regards to dealing with their affliction? I wouldn't. I've experienced a scenario similar to it first hand and it is utterly awful for all involved, much worse for the afflicted.

Mate, you were doing so well....
> stawman
> black-or-white

But to respond to your statement; killing people with disabilities and genetically undesirable traits dose increase the fitness of a gene pool.

As I said before, if everyone with intelligence below the mean was killed, then the mean would be higher than previously.

I think that he just was out of his mind and has no good reason for him to have done such a thing.It is sure that he would have regreted doing that.

So by that logic, I must be okay with rape, shooting animals, and murder.
I'm a vegetarian, I believe in male rape, and I don't support the death penalty.
The only reason people say that is because most murders involving children/teens, they try to find anything that could get them less time in jail, since most familes/households have consoles or violent video games, they mostly blame it on that.


But back on topic,
What charges do you think he should face (If you believe that he SHOULD face charges at all)?
Going to jail and rehab? Of course.
The death penalty? No.
Do you think his actions were rational or irrational?
Irrational. I think he just overreacted, and he needs to learn from this later on in life.
Than again, he'll probably spend life in jail, but meh.
How do you think he feels now (Does he regret it or not)?
Little bit of A and B.
He probably regrets it, but at the same time tries to justify it in his head.

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They actually don't.

Here's this: http://www.science20.com/news_articl...agers_violence

Parents who blame violent behaviour on videogames are idiots. But I wasn't talking about that. I never said "violent videogames make you violent" I said "violent videogames desensitize people to violence" if you play shooting games for 20 years, and you one day shoot someone irl, it will not psychologically scar you as bad as it would have if you never played a violent videogame.

Please learn the subject of the argument before you argue, and please, make sure you're arguing about the right thing -- Or you'll look like an even bigger idiot.



And since you people brought this topic up:

There is no excuse for murder, this kid is not insane, he had no mental illness, he was just "tired of his family nagging him" and so he killed them. he even said -- via 911 call -- "I didn't want them to feel pain, I just wanted it to be over quickly"

These are the tell tale signs of a sociopath/psychopath.

Even if he can be cured of this via rehab, you people don't seem to understand how severe this was. It was a premeditated strike, not a crime of passion. He fired several bullets into each corpse (while they were still in agonizing pain). And he said "I don't hate my family, I just hate the way they yell at me, and at eachother".

This was not a "scared little boy who killed his family by accident, or while in a state of trauma". His family was a wealthy and respected family. (They lived in a gated community for christ sake!). And his neighbors even said: "There was never anything so stressful in his household as to incite him to such violence".

He murdered a 15 year old girl (his sister), and his own damn mother.

He was 17, he was fully aware of the consequences of his actions.

To put it simply:

He intended to kill his family, but kill them so quickly as to avoid suffering. Then, he ended up firing multiple shots into their concious bodies when he failed at killing them instantly. His other quote:

"I didn't mean for them to feel pain or anything, I just wanted it to be over quickly... it's like everything just went wrong..."

This does not deserve sympathy. I don't want this person being released back into the general public. I think he should face capital murder charges with at least 20+ years jail time.

And think of it this way,

If your best friend killed your entire family because he "hated the way they yelled at you" and he was facing a year of rehab with a slap on the wrist, would you really want him to get off that easy, or are you people really that pathetic?
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You must be retarded, or have an equally devastating mental disability that impairs cognitive thought.

Please leave.

Off topic kasika.

I am sure he regrets everything he did. Though in his 911 call, he sounded weirdly calm. He states that he has been planning on doing it. If he could go back to time, he would change what he did, most probably.

Oh yeah, and you're both wrong, and an idiot. Plus, you probably didn't even listen to the 911 call/read the articles.
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You're also wrong.