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Do people really take offence though? I understand if somebody is harassing you in chat are saying like you should kill yourself or you need to gunned them down but just saying nigga in chat? Do people really get offended by this like I don't think anybody has ever been triggered by the word nigga by this most of the time they're just butt hurt and want to get back at the person
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Originally Posted by PACKET View Post
People, especially staff seriously don't understand what racism is. Nigga isn't racism. Saying a "racist joke" isn't always "racist".

Its all about context and the manner in which it was said, staff (GMs in particular) really seem to struggle with this concept. I understand that rules implemented by staff are very black and white (pun intended) so that there is no grey area for arguing.

That being said I really feel that this type of ruling really kills of the community feel and freedom that games need. I think Toribash is waaaaaay to over-moderated and a much more relaxed take on rules creates a much less "Staff vs Players" atmosphere.

I'm sure in 99% of reports no one is offended. I think there is very very few genuine racists in the toribash community. Out of the 100s that say nigga i think none are actually racist. The only real racist person in the toribash community i can think of is Fish.

Fish never got banned for being racist (one of the only real racists) where as 100s of people having fun and casually using the word nigga have been banned.

don't make this something that it isn't. has this word been widely known to equate to racism? yeah. has the meaning begun to change in modern times? yeah. but you can't assume people aren't offended by the word because you perceived it as being said in a joking, non-serious or non-harmful manner. so in that regard, if someone is reported for being "racist" you have to assume that the person who reported this was offended by what was said.
in regards to "racist jokes" aren't always racist, just re-read what you wrote man. if they are called racist jokes they aren't appropriate. they play off stereotypes and prejudice against a race.
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Originally Posted by Gucci View Post
Do people really take offence though? I understand if somebody is harassing you in chat are saying like you should kill yourself or you need to gunned them down but just saying nigga in chat? Do people really get offended by this like I don't think anybody has ever been triggered by the word nigga by this most of the time they're just butt hurt and want to get back at the person

Yeah, I can see that, but I'm glad there are rules about it, even if they are shifted too far one way or the other.
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from my perspective, honestly it's all about what your intentions are with the word. if you're saying it in a disrespectful tone obviously trying to piss me or someone else off then don't be surprised if you catch fade. if not, it's cool no matter what your race is. as far as toribash goes, the bans for saying nigga are unnecessary. i've seen bans for it if it's even heard in a casual conversation between 2 people ingame. the assumption that the word is automatically offensive to everyone obviously isn't the case and if we really want to protect people's feelings i think the people who might be offended should speak up.
Originally Posted by Daxx View Post
as far as toribash goes, the bans for saying nigga are unnecessary. i've seen bans for it if it's even heard in a casual conversation between 2 people ingame. the assumption that the word is automatically offensive to everyone obviously isn't the case and if we really want to protect people's feelings i think the people who might be offended should speak up.

I agree. If someone was offended by the term "nigga" then they speak up. Having it be automatically offensive is just as racist.
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Serbs sing "kill kill albanians/bosnians/croats" at every footie home game they've had in the past 15 years, no one gives a fuck. They physically assault players and fans of those nations and no one gives a fuck.

One white american jokingly calls a black guy a nigger and suddenly he's a war criminal who deserves to hang for crimes his ancestors may or may not have committed. America hasn't seen actual racism in about 60 years, everyone just loves being offended a bit too much. Yes, racism exists in America. No, one tard trying to be funny is not racism.

If you want to see true racism, look at the balkans. If you want to see thin-skinned momma's boys who can't take jokes, look at mercuh.
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Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
Serbs sing "kill kill albanians/bosnians/croats" at every footie home game they've had in the past 15 years, no one gives a fuck. They physically assault players and fans of those nations and no one gives a fuck.

One white american jokingly calls a black guy a nigger and suddenly he's a war criminal who deserves to hang for crimes his ancestors may or may not have committed. America hasn't seen actual racism in about 60 years, everyone just loves being offended a bit too much. Yes, racism exists in America. No, one tard trying to be funny is not racism.

If you want to see true racism, look at the balkans. If you want to see thin-skinned momma's boys who can't take jokes, look at mercuh.

Racist chants in football is being tackled.... and is a problem.... The people singing the chants aren't actual racists but you can't say "no one cares" when Fifa have been trying to put a end to racist chants.

"America hasn't seen actual Racism in about 60 years" ..... ......... .............................. ........ ............ ............ ............. ..........

America is still an extremely racist country they are just very good at hiding it from the media. In the 80s, 90s, was very bad police brutality towards blacks. In the 80s blacks couldn't use the same bus as a white person. They couldn't use a white persons bathroom..... THIS IS IN THE 80s, 35 years ago.

Today there is still plenty racism in America but as i said the media is brilliant at covering it up.
Tupac once defined the word: He said a nigger is the one hanging on the rope, while the nigg(a) is the one with the gold ropes hanging at a club.

Also I think everybody hates when the white man say that word because, they enslaved us. I believe many people hang that over thier heads. Right now I have an Italian girlfriend and I myself are Afro American so my friends usually make jokes such as " Isaacs' gonna get 22 to life" or "you keep playing with her like that you going to jail" referring to how "Blacks" were falsely accused of rape by Caucasian women. So I don't believe its just the white man cant say the word, I believe its deep seeded un-forgiveness. Most of my friends still use the Black Power symbol even though were in highschool and did not even witness that generation, they have even debated that if white slavery happens would they enslave Hispanics.
Last edited by Gotti; Oct 17, 2015 at 01:35 PM.
The issue with casually using a word which is still very much associated with historic oppression is that it implies belittlement or ignorance of that oppression. This isn't a great thing to do, as looking at historical fuck ups is a good way to avoid making similar mistakes again. Not that we should try to pretend the world is still like that or harbour the grudges those times created, but to pretend that history should be ignored can be foolish.
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Originally Posted by Gucci View Post
Do people really take offence though? I understand if somebody is harassing you in chat are saying like you should kill yourself or you need to gunned them down but just saying nigga in chat? Do people really get offended by this like I don't think anybody has ever been triggered by the word nigga by this most of the time they're just butt hurt and want to get back at the person

I think you're forgetting how much smaller the world is thanks to the internet. In a day and age where people get upset if you identify as your own gender you can bet your ass you'll find someone genuinely upset about the casual use of "nigga" between friends.
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