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protecting someone from improving smh tbh :/

if those "random people on skype" don't somehow happen to be editors you're contradicting your own argument lmao, i mean you aren't an editor either

whether i can edit or not doesn't really matter as I've stated in the post that was apparently too long for you to read/understand, but to answer your question, yeah i can

even so, this thread isn't for protecting people/works, assaulting people, questioning their expertise on the subject, etc.

everyone should be allowed to share their opinions 100% as long as they say something constructive and not just degrade others' thoughts

now before this post gets deleted for not relating to the video, I understand you put work into the beginning and would prefer not to rework it (though scrapping is always an option), but try to take some of the advice people give you and use it for future edits cause at this rate improving will be slow and more situations like this are bound to occur

good luck with this anyway
Well, that escalated quickly.

Originally Posted by SkypePro View Post
Rude ass motherfuckers. There are nicer ways of wording what they had said, so here it goes:

"Glitchy"
Basically, they mean at the parts where the song repeats a word, and you hop it back. That doesn't exactly look the best, maybe instead of hopping it back in an instant fashion, it could slow down, speed up, slow down, speed up, or something like that?

"Choppy"
They mean either "Glitchy" or the FPS drops occasionally. A few times the FPS seemed to lower, just enough to be slightly noticed. It isn't to huge of a problem, but is worth taking into consideration.

"Cheesecakey"
I've got no fucking idea. Maybe they mean it's unoriginal, or something like that? This one didn't make sense too me either Mocucha, and I do know that English isn't your first language, so some of these stupid fucking words might not make entire sense.

My personal CNC would be too relax on the hopping back and forth. Not saying entirely remove it, but try and make it a little bit smoother. The overlay isn't exactly the best, grade A overlay, but it's definitely not as bad as people say. Maybe reduce the brightness, opacity, etc. Being honest, this isn't your best work. But that's why it is a wip, after all. I do think this will work out.

Also, you have subscribers because you have tutorial videos, and do edits for people. It's that simple TyZi.

Hope this helped man, I really appreciate all the work you do, and am not exactly pleased with the way people are treating you over an edit that just isn't your best.

Thanks a lot for your explanations and advices, I will take them in consideration

Originally Posted by Kwing714 View Post
People It is a wip! The final product will look better if you just support and give him some ideas or help. A wip doesn't really look good but the complete one will. That is what I'm saying.

Exactly, but they are too closed in some hate to understand that, I'm not even trying to talk to them.

Originally Posted by Shiro View Post
does this imply you disregard criticism? cause it sure as hell seems like it

alright so a basic understanding of what criticism means involves knowing that it shouldn't matter who it's coming from, which you don't seem to get and keep enforcing the opposite in a quite hostile and direct manner, for whatever reason

it doesn't prove anyone's points wrong nor does it serve as a somewhat okay argument

you clearly know a lot about editing too

i mean who doesn't know piling up effects makes a video good duhh


oh you sure told him!

disregarding advice is the best way to improve after all

he obviously hasn't changed anything from the first wip regardless of all the things people pointed out, why is everyone who is "defending" him acting like nothing was said in the first place

makes me wonder if this dick-riding hostile fanbase of his even understands the posts they flamed and ridiculed with all their hearts

imo everything from the tricking part was really cool, you should've stuck to that kinda style from the beginning

Cristicism =/= shit.

Originally Posted by Hentai View Post
I tinks its time to retire mocu




Or listen to the masses and improve because it's the same quality of videos over and over (tbh goin downhill)
:/

Yeah, in your opinion, it is the same quality, not in mine, I still improve, whatever you are thinking about it. And to be honest, I don't give a fuck about the fact you think it is time for me to retire or not, it is not your business but mine. I don't listen the masses, I don't give a fuck, again. I listen about usefull comments.

And, because people are talking about that, I will tell you what is a good cristicism, because that thread turn out really stupid.

"Omg, good video, I love your effects" = Useless comment.
"Omg, bad video, I hate your effects" = Useless comment.

Giving ways to improve, giving tips or whatever in the same case is useful, I'm sorry if the most of you just don't get it, but I guess it is surelly because you are too young for that, too immatures.

An other thing : I non-stop repeat it, but one more time should be ok : I do videos in my free time, most of time when I'm back from work or late in night when I don't work the other day just because I love doing Toribash videos, that IS the only reason why I do that. I do videos like I want to see them. Obviously I take cristicism in consideration, a lot of my videos have changed because of usefull comments, but anyway, if I love an effect, you could be one million to say me that effect suck, I won't change it. So stop being cocky like a young bastard who think he could conquer the world, stop thinking your opinion is really important. At least try to make your comments usefull or just avoid to post. Opinion is like an asshole, everyone of us have one.

The ART THREAT is worst and worst, months after months.

Datskip : I'm sorry for that, but I think some things should be said and I think most of people who psted there should read it.

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He says he has a new recording thing for his newest videos.(It says this on his vid "Mocucha Is Back) And I think he is probably getting used to making videos with it.
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Last edited by Kwing714; Nov 26, 2015 at 11:24 PM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
Putting this out there, because some cunt is going to point Mocucha out on his spelling:
English isn't his native language, therefore you shouldn't be a prick.

So this doesn't get removed for "Useless Posting" I am going to make another point about the video:
The transitions between replays are extremely bright, regarding your opinion, it might look better with a little less brightness too it? Other than that, this video falls together neatly. Looking forward to the finished video. I am sincerely sorry on behalf of the assholes who don't know how to put a correct post about criticism.
Originally Posted by SkypePro View Post
Putting this out there, because some cunt is going to point Mocucha out on his spelling:
English isn't his native language, therefore you shouldn't be a prick.

So this doesn't get removed for "Useless Posting" I am going to make another point about the video:
The transitions between replays are extremely bright, regarding your opinion, it might look better with a little less brightness too it? Other than that, this video falls together neatly. Looking forward to the finished video. I am sincerely sorry on behalf of the assholes who don't know how to put a correct post about criticism.

most people on this thread don't have English as their native language, and no one said anything about mocucha's spelling

also, for mocucha that video was, i can't even describe it in words. i'm not being mean to you, but those 'lensflares' were annoying as fuck, and not a good choice of song. also, this is all rigged gg no re wp
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Please can you guys stop flooding, we know moderator dont do there job, but don't abuse of your "right".
Do you realise that discussion stopped to talk about the video 2 pages ago?

Mocu, the spar is too long without any effect, maybe you can do hmmm... you know? That effect.
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the repeats/jumpcuts:

the jumpcuts were fine imo

the repeats at 0:22-0:24 were a bit different from the rest of them, since these didn't actually end with whatever came next in the replay. its like you combined a jumpcut with the last repeat. makes me think that there might've been more to that replay.

the repeats overall are awful imo. i mean yeah, the song repeats itself, but that doesnt mean you have to do it every time it has those repeating sessions. like you didn't do the jumpcuts in the beginning repeatedly did you? those were more tolerable because they werent done over and over in the video.

instead of repeating the clip over and over again when the song starts repeating itself, do the speed up and slow down thing like skypepro said. just not too much to where it's annoying.

or maybe you can sync some of the hits with the repeats. that'd be smoother.

you dont have to do it on every repeated word. maybe wait a word, then do whatever effect you want to do, wait a word, etc

also: at 1:13 those repeats looked better than all the rest. just pointing that out

the overlays:

i think the overlays for the most part were fine. the overlay at 1:01-1:26 is questionable however

the glow around the toris didn't really fit in yeah?

other effects

the toris lose quality when they start lighting up at 0:41-0:58

dont you think you couldve just left the replay at normal speed, (0:56), since it is short anyways?

the thing at 1:20 was cool. maybe when that effect is over, perhaps shake the tori left to right a bit to have the illusion that they united back?

in all honesty, you should really focus on the replays themselves, without ruining their flow. if the majority of the video is trying to show how cool the effects are instead of how cool the replays are then what's the point?

this song is rather hard to work with, so good luck.

i'd suggest starting from scratch tho buddy :c
Last edited by Tsuion; Nov 27, 2015 at 05:06 AM.
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Originally Posted by Ancient View Post
most people on this thread don't have English as their native language, and no one said anything about mocucha's spelling

Buddy buddy buddy, I fucking said, "SOMEONE is going to complain". Saying so in advance, because the post by Mocucha above mine was a grammar Nazi's living hell.

Tsuion, I agree with a lot of that. I don't think he should start entirely from scratch, he has nice transitioning, and the overlay is good for the first part in my opinion. I really appreciate that more than just a couple of us know how to right out an informative criticizing post that will actually be taken into consideration. (A not too everyone raging about his "I don't take shit into consideration," he meant he doesn't take shitty CNC into consideration, for those of you narrow-minded children who didn't catch on to that.)
Originally Posted by SkypePro View Post
So this doesn't get removed for "Useless Posting" I am going to make another point about the video:
The transitions between replays are extremely bright, regarding your opinion, it might look better with a little less brightness too it? Other than that, this video falls together neatly. Looking forward to the finished video

You are right, the transitions are too brightness, I already fixed that point.

Originally Posted by Ancient View Post
also, for mocucha that video was, i can't even describe it in words. i'm not being mean to you, but those 'lensflares' were annoying as fuck, and not a good choice of song. also, this is all rigged gg no re wp

Wich lensflares are you talking about ?

For the music... I think it is impossible to chose a music that 100% of people love it.

Originally Posted by Astral View Post
Mocu, the spar is too long without any effect, maybe you can do hmmm... you know? That effect.

I'm not sure to understand what do you want to mean...

Originally Posted by Tsuion View Post

the repeats/jumpcuts:

the jumpcuts were fine imo

the repeats at 0:22-0:24 were a bit different from the rest of them, since these didn't actually end with whatever came next in the replay. its like you combined a jumpcut with the last repeat. makes me think that there might've been more to that replay.

the repeats overall are awful imo. i mean yeah, the song repeats itself, but that doesnt mean you have to do it every time it has those repeating sessions. like you didn't do the jumpcuts in the beginning repeatedly did you? those were more tolerable because they werent done over and over in the video.

instead of repeating the clip over and over again when the song starts repeating itself, do the speed up and slow down thing like skypepro said. just not too much to where it's annoying.

or maybe you can sync some of the hits with the repeats. that'd be smoother.

you dont have to do it on every repeated word. maybe wait a word, then do whatever effect you want to do, wait a word, etc

also: at 1:13 those repeats looked better than all the rest. just pointing that out

the overlays:

i think the overlays for the most part were fine. the overlay at 1:01-1:26 is questionable however

the glow around the toris didn't really fit in yeah?

other effects

the toris lose quality when they start lighting up at 0:41-0:58

dont you think you couldve just left the replay at normal speed, (0:56), since it is short anyways?

the thing at 1:20 was cool. maybe when that effect is over, perhaps shake the tori left to right a bit to have the illusion that they united back?

in all honesty, you should really focus on the replays themselves, without ruining their flow. if the majority of the video is trying to show how cool the effects are instead of how cool the replays are then what's the point?

this song is rather hard to work with, so good luck.

i'd suggest starting from scratch tho buddy :c

I'm still searching for something to replace the jumpcuts, actually I don't find something better...

For the glow around the toris, it look some bad because of my rendering settings (same for fps that fall in some parts, I need to render in 32bits colors + make more fps), I'm still trying to improve that.

In general, and that is the main thematic of my channel, I focus on the replays, not on the effects (except for some videos), but I still try to remove bad parts of replays.
Last edited by Mocucha; Nov 28, 2015 at 12:47 PM.

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