Secret Santa 2024
Originally Posted by Stupinator View Post
Dalir, seriously, I care because I'm his friend, When someone dies it isn't something to mock, and that image was completely uncalled for.

He posted this why? for support, not to get mocked

I'm not going to keep posting in here, seriously, I don't want to spam.

He posted this for items and attention, don't even try to make it seem like something else. Whether it was your safe clan-board, or the General Discussion, it doesn't matter. He put it up here, free for everyone to see. Does he really expect everyone to care, maybe shed a few tears and send a few items? Not only does this seem extremely fake, if it were true, he would have used his mothers death to get items in a game, which I find completely despicable. We see begging threads all the time, what makes THIS one special? It's a cruel picture, yes, but stuff like that is only to be expected. He's not the only one here who loses relatives, stop acting like he is. You both need to fucking grow up. Thanks.
|11:33| »» [shark] so you're saying that you just paid 80 euros for pussy
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perhaps since one of the last things his mom did was point out what she thought would look good on a toribash character, he feels like he needs to make that happen. So I can completely understand why this would be his priority right now.

and Dalir, he never asked for items, or tc, as I pointed out before, he was just informing people of what happened.
Former Item Forger
Originally Posted by Stupinator View Post
perhaps since one of the last things his mom did was point out what she thought would look good on a toribash character, he feels like he needs to make that happen. So I can completely understand why this would be his priority right now.

and Dalir, he never asked for items, or tc, as I pointed out before, he was just informing people of what happened.

Oh COME ON! Saying that his only goal in life keeping him from suicide is getting those precise colours. It's just a more careful way of begging, stop kidding us and yourself around.
|11:33| »» [shark] so you're saying that you just paid 80 euros for pussy
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I'll beleive and stand up for what I damn well want to.

And it's not a matter of suicide, it's a matter of fullfilling what he thinks he needs to.
Former Item Forger
I neither know nor do i care whether this is true or not. What i only ask myself: Why was this moved in the first place? Either it was a low begging, than why move a beg into Discussion or it was true, then why move it here where the chances of some shit like the one we have seen are much higher?

Sure he has to expect something like that when he makes a thread like that in a forum like this but why isnt this closed by now? As i pointed out, both kinds of threads are not supposed to be open in discussion wheter its fake or not.
My 2 pence.
<Gandalf> YOU SHALL NOT PASS
<Balrog> Sorry

On-links are bad
OLDA are good
Junt moved it withought being asked, Megadoomer himself asked for this to be deleted, though no admin was on to delete it, I pmed JePoY about it, but no responce.

it's not MegaDoomer's fault it got moved, and it's not his fault is hasn't been closed.
Former Item Forger
Sigh...


To prevent bloodshed (which some of you MAY be crazy enough to stalk fellow players), topic closed. Or in the future deleted. Nice going peeps
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I dont care if the mum is dead or not this is ABSOLUTELY not acceptable chac hasn't banned u for this stupidity but i have.
OOOOHHHHH I MAKE U WANNA SCREAMMMMMM, I MAKE YOU WANT TO RUN FROM ME BABY BUT ITS TO LATE YOU WASTED ALL YOUR TIIMMMMEEEEEEE



Meh, trolls remorse kicked in. Megadoomer, if I offended you I'm sorry. As usual I didn't really think. This thread is my biggest (bleep)up ever, but I couldn't resist. I hope you'll forgive me, I'm lucky I wasn't banned. Sending you 1tc as a peace offering.

EDIT: Sorry, the peace offering might seem smartass. It was an attempt of keeping this humorous so I wouldn't think of myself as such a horrible person. If this is true, I'm truly sorry for your loss. If it's not then, it was still unnecessary. Hope you don't hate me as much, I'm only human.
Last edited by dalir; Oct 28, 2008 at 05:46 AM.
|11:33| »» [shark] so you're saying that you just paid 80 euros for pussy
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COURT IS NOW IN SESSION:

Prosecutor - Kai-Tiger
Defense - Novitech
Judge - veb

Prosecutor:
Dalir, a role-model of our community, was seen (and has admitted) to offending someone for a family members death. (Even though the said family member could be 100% well and alive, those in a position to lead others must never directly offend fellow community members)
Youngbl00ds was also seen doing the same thing, but YoungBl00ds is not a key-member, and is just a user.

I push for the immediate termination of their accounts. I shall call on my witness, Chac.

Judge:
That is not needed. Please present your case Defense.

Defense:
To whom it may concern. I am writing this on the behalf of Dalir and YoungBl00d, two active members and valuable forum contributers. They are currently under probation and/or ban for the events surrounding Megadoomers alleged family death and items search. YoungBl00d has been banned from the forums, and Dalir has been stripped of his moderator priveledges.

This letter is my appeal for a turnover on all terms. Please, hear me out, as this is somewhat lengthly.

I was directly involved with megadoomer thoughout the incident, and was, as I believe, scammed as I will demonstrate later. First of all, though, let me show what I believe is undeniable proof that this whole incident was a farce on megadoomer's part.


To begin, this is from an conversation that he and I had on IRC.

01[02:40] <Novitec|Rosso> When is her funeral?
[02:41] <Megadoomer> it was sunday
01[02:41] <Novitec|Rosso> when did she pass?
[02:41] <Megadoomer> friday

Instantly this should be suspicious... a 2 day turnaround for a suicide? (most death/funeral time spans are closer to 4 days, and suicides are longer because they must confirm the exact cause of death and rule out foul play)

Further verifying the time, if you refer to the following thread-

http://forum.toribash.com/showpost.p...2&postcount=10

You will see that he claims she commited suicide approximately 5 hours after breafast. (which he later changes to 4) Even assuming a late breakfast, that still places it around 12-1PM.

Now, If you go to his posts, or better yet the transaction history...

http://forum.toribash.com/tori_pub_t...st.php?u=22092

You will find not only was he doing things around the time of her death, but directly before, during, and directly thereafter.

2008-10-25 02:54:34 From - DiabloCole 0 Sphinx Torso
2008-10-24 17:04:00 To - ShadowXD -5000 Bank Transfer
2008-10-24 17:04:00 To - ShadowXD -5000 Transfer
2008-10-24 16:21:44 From - Cinnamal 5000 Transfer
2008-10-24 16:21:44 From - Cinnamal 5000 Bank Transfer
2008-10-24 16:21:00 To - Cinnamal 0 Vampire relax
2008-10-24 16:04:05 From - ChuckKills 0 Sphinx Relax
2008-10-24 12:20:17 To - DiabloCole -2000 Bank Transfer
2008-10-24 12:20:17 To - DiabloCole -2000 Transfer
2008-10-24 12:19:27 To - ChuckKills -1600 Bank Transfer
2008-10-24 12:19:27 To - ChuckKills -1600 Transfer
2008-10-24 03:34:21 From - derbomber 1750 Bank Transfer
2008-10-24 03:34:21 From - derbomber 1750 Transfer
2008-10-24 03:32:50 To - derbomber -1750 Bank Transfer
2008-10-24 03:32:50 To - derbomber -1750 Transfer
2008-10-24 02:24:28 To - Novitech 0 Acid force
2008-10-24 02:21:53 From - Novitech 3500 Bank Transfer
2008-10-24 02:21:53 From - Novitech 3500 Transfer
2008-10-24 01:48:55 To - Novitech -10000 Transfer
2008-10-24 01:48:55 To - Novitech -10000 Bank Transfer
2008-10-24 01:38:34 From - Novitech 0 Sapphire force


This is even more condemning, because at the time of her 'death', he said he was at his father's, working.

"ok this weekend i was working with my dad... "

http://forum.toribash.com/showpost.p...62&postcount=1

Clearly, he was not working with his dad, he was on TB.



Further discrepencies fall in the post I referenced earlier.

http://forum.toribash.com/showpost.p...2&postcount=10

He states her that he was making breakfast when his mom chose the colors. However, in our personal IRC chat, he states something quite contradictory.

[02:59] <Megadoomer> ok u wanna know in detail what happend about the qs and drag
01[02:59] <Novitec|Rosso> sure
[03:00] <Megadoomer> ok my mom was next to me while i was playong tb and i went to bath room and told her to make a tori u know the try feture in torishop?
01[03:00] <Novitec|Rosso> mhm
[03:01] <Megadoomer> and she made it with drag lax qs force and drag prim that was 4 hours b4 her death


Finally, in addition to the rest of this, I would like to address megadoomer's items request.

He wanted QS force, which I have been searching for for months. I finally found someone to sell it to me for 40k. When I heard of his situation, I offered to resell my newly found prize for 30k. He said it was too much since he still wanted to buy dragon lax and a dragon gradient. I said, ok, I will take the hit on this, what price would you like for it? He responded via PM, 27k. This was odd to me, since he only had 34k or so at the time (of which, strangely, 27k had been donated to him for this incident with his mom). What really disturbed me was that the remaining amount of TC he had was just what he needed to fulfill... His head texture request in the requests forum. So, essentially, he used the money that was donated to him (and NO more) to buy ONE item for his mom's 'tribute' item set... and then he spent the rest on a head texture. A head texture that he requested before the incident with his mom, but oddly enough matches these items that she picked out...

Coincidence? I think not.


So, as you can see. Megadoomer's story does not hold up to his own accounts, and there is more than suspicious activity.


Granted, youngbl00d and Dalir's actions were less than becoming. But this is the internet, and it is a cruel and harsh place. Far worse things could have happened. I believe that Youngbl00d and Dalir have both considered the reprocussions of their actions, and are truly remorseful. They are both active participators and assets to the toribash community, and I believe it would have a negative effect to keep the ban on Youngbl00d, and to remove Dalir as a moderator.

So, to conclude, I implore you to reverse these punishments. The damage has been done, the lessons have been learned. Any furthering of this action will only take away from the forums and Toribash. Please reconsider.

Please understand, also, that I do not wish to smear Megadoomer in any way. His story, shaky as it may seem, may after-all be true. I do not wish to pursue any action in regards to the QS Force, it is merely an item. I am writing this only with intentions of helping two stand-up individuals that I believe are each a great contribution to the forums.

Thank you for your time.


Judge:

This looks like a case of two people saying the wrong thing and regretting it. There's also plenty of tangible evidence that Megadoomer may have faked this whole 'drama'. Because this is not a Toribash Court session about Megadoomer, this will not come into it.

I find both of the accused not guilty. However, because of this slight let-down, Dalir will have his priveledges removed for 2 weeks. YoungBl00ds will have his ban squished.

I do not want to see either of you in another Toribash Court session again, or the consequences will be grave.

*court is adjorned*
Last edited by veb; Oct 29, 2008 at 10:37 AM.