Secret Santa 2024
I keep playing Overwatch because of its solid ranked system and mechanics. I play League for the same reason.

I play Phasmophobia, Among Us, and Project Winter because of the social element (a focus on voice chat and especially proximity voice).


I play Borderlands and Destiny because they have an engaging story to keep you coming back.


Toribash doesn't have a single one of these things. The idea behind the game is cool but whenever I play, it ends up being 3 QA games before I give up. There's no reason for me to play at all. There's no story, no social element, no (good) ranked system. I feel like there's no direction or structure at all.


I think that's why so many people quit this game.
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Originally Posted by phish View Post
it's mainly behavior and attitude for me, rules i dont care about.
i can list off a couple staff members i think are shit because of how they act both on and off forums.

Icky. From what I've seen he acts like a complete child with peoples ban appeals, I don't have any screenshots to provide but I think any post he has made in ban appeals would suffice.
This post in particular on forums in a non-moderation way is also childish, sure its enclave and "haha everyone and staff can shit on enclave because " but the "you're an idiot" is not necessary.
This is the only one I've come across because I don't have the patience to scroll through his post history.
At least this bad screenshot isn't from a year ago and without proper context




Chick. He's incompetent, gives the wrong advice, hardly does the job the staff position requires, and he's immature. Just check his messages in #support

chick


the evidence you provided for chick is wholly unconvincing to me, just looks like he got ninja'd in the first one and affirmed with authority the response of a fellow community memberin the second. i'm not sure what the role of a toriagent is, are they supposed to check in on the beginner sanctuary often?

as for icky, see below.

Originally Posted by Ele View Post
Don't you find his post edits hilarious though? Like when he edits someone's shitpost to say something like "Nice try, see me after class", hahaha. Don't you LOL and find that to be the funniest thing ever? He's a funny guy!

I remember seeing that post of his about Enclave around the time he made it and it definitely made me think 'Fuck you dickhead' - What kind of cunt calls someone an idiot for trying to help out? "It's a placeholder for the new event", that's all he had to say. Icky though, being a spiteful dickhead, saw the opportunity to insult Enclave and took it. Let me tell you something about our boy Icky, when it comes to holding grudges, he's worse than an elephant. Really is like a little child.
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ed's a good guy tho, don't think he's put a step wrong that I recall

i personally don't see enclave doing anything out of the goodness of his own heart.
i thought he took it as a chance to gloat to staff "i see what you're doing in your back rooms, you're not getting past me".
i have some vague recollection of a wibbles controversy that enclave was a part of around the time of this post, so maybe it was excess frustration that icky tried to use to make enclave feel silly. i could be wrong though, so take this with a grain of salt.

i do remember thinking 'oh snap' when reading it for the first time, and maybe that's not the kind of reaction you want for a post from a staff member
then again, i'm not opposed to seeing someone who i think is a smug bastard get their ego brought down a few pegs

Originally Posted by phish View Post
this is also something i have a problem with, imagine having the power to close threads or edit them to be less of a problem, instead you edit the post and make yourself look like an ass while doing it.
im pretty sure icky wasnt the only one, i remember chirs doing it a bit in wibbles

to prevent this post from being exclusively a "shit on icky" post, i'll add something else
If you are a moderator, capable of closing or editing threads and deleting posts or threads, what is the purpose of editing a post to try to be funny?
this is a serious question to icky or whoever else has done this.
i get maybe trying to lighten up the thread or whatever but if its blatantly not funny why even save the edit.

edit: i think higher staff should take a closer and unbiased look at current staff members including ninjas and look at what they have said or how they have acted towards any member regardless of personal issues or beliefs, and finding any problematic or bad things a staff member has said shortly prior to or after becoming their position should be brought up and asked about.
if staff wants to get rid of bad members, they should get rid of bad staff also
for an example, if icky were help squad member and i were his lead and i saw that he had called a member an idiot publicly or privately(privately being in hidden threads or subforums like ban appeals), id be talking to him about it and expressing that he shouldnt conduct himself like that regardless of history he has with a particular person. Basically be unbiased to everyone and remain helpful.

idk if what i said makes sense, im sick and have to take a massive diarrhea shit now

i don't really get this point, humour is subjective and icky/chirs probably like the edits they make.
i don't think i've seen a whole lot of icky's edits, but chirs's edits were always humourous to me.

correct me if i'm wrong but icky doesn't have a lot of people to answer to, right?
are you proposing that sir/hampa/suo/skul take a look at icky's actions?

let that river run wild in you until the waters are calm again
alright guy
Originally Posted by fudgiebalz View Post
the evidence you provided for chick is wholly unconvincing to me, just looks like he got ninja'd in the first one and affirmed with authority the response of a fellow community memberin the second. i'm not sure what the role of a toriagent is, are they supposed to check in on the beginner sanctuary often?

Yes, but in fairness to chick there haven't been any amount of posts in Technical Support or Beginner Sanctuary.

I'll highlight the problems I have though.

chick



The goal of all this isn't to get Chick removed (though, it would be a decent idea) because he isn't outright damaging the staff team, however he's been a recurring name in this thread and, as someone who was involved with TA for a long time, I feel I can provide some insight seen as I've been worried about this applicant since day one. He is a very questionable pick and isn't cut out for the job in my opinion, and this is the evidence I've decided to provide to show why that's the case.
Originally Posted by tabby View Post
Yes, but in fairness to chick there haven't been any amount of posts in Technical Support or Beginner Sanctuary.

I'll highlight the problems I have though.

chick



The goal of all this isn't to get Chick removed (though, it would be a decent idea) because he isn't outright damaging the staff team, however he's been a recurring name in this thread and, as someone who was involved with TA for a long time, I feel I can provide some insight seen as I've been worried about this applicant since day one. He is a very questionable pick and isn't cut out for the job in my opinion, and this is the evidence I've decided to provide to show why that's the case.

holy shit

some of this stuff is excusable if you genuinely don't know the answer, but the attitude in the gfuel interaction and response to being denied are really telling
alright guy
I mean I quit for 7 months because I had to correct my attitude towards certain things and just general issues with how I was dealing with things. Plus some IRL difficulties. I guess it wasnt really quitting more taking a break to just be offline for a long period of time and refresh.
Originally Posted by tabby View Post
for whatever reason i hit an unknown key on my keyboard with my fat ass fingers and posted as soon as i started

Anyway, I stopped playing primarily because I felt I reached the furthest I was probably ever going to go in terms of replaymaking, technical knowledge of Toribash, and staff experience. I felt there was not much left for me in this game and decided to take my leave, only occasionally hopping on to say some dumb shit in a discord server or to make a replay or two, which aren't nearly as good as the ones I made in roughly February - about July, after that I fell off.

I can't blame the community or its staff for driving me away, because it didn't, but I have my gripes. Some of the members of the community are unbearably self-centered and extremely annoying to read and/or listen to, pushing their ideas and/or beliefs(I wonder who I'm referring to) onto you when man all I wanna do is click some fucking balls. Some of the staff adopt the "we know better" mentality and completely disregard what your average user thinks, sometimes making poor decisions with their applicants, for example. A couple are/have been straight up incompetent and it makes you wonder what the fuck they were on when they thought bringing these people in was a good idea in any capacity.

Edit: But in light of that, I feel it's fair to mention there are also a lot of staff members currently that I very much respect for their reasonable contributions and their ability to listen and understand what the problems are and come up with reasonable fixes for them, so it's not all doom and gloom.

I figured for fun (and because I have massive testicles) I would make a short list talking about Toribash staff additions I thought were problematic, and staff members I think are exceptionally great:

problematic (you might be listed here, only click if you are sure your feelings won't be hurt)



exceptionally good staff members


None of this matters, I saw a discussion about staff and how bad it is and wanted to give my own personal thoughts on who specifically I thought was bad but I also wanted to be fair by recognizing the talents of those I personally thought were great. It's inevitable that I missed people for both lists but you know who you are, probably.


hey man
i tried