We never said "You'll never be as good as x". Karbn said he compared the video styles of the two to show the difference in production, not skill or professionalism. No where did he say "hey, check this video out and compare their skills". Even so, the comparison was meant for pat to view (to see the difference between something made "for fun" and one that's made professionally). He gave himself high hopes, and didn't meet them. Is that our fault? People said his edits were professional when they weren't. You were spoon feeding him confidence. Then there's the criticism karbn and I gave him. Yes it was harsh, but we didn't mean any ill feelings towards him. We were pointing out his faults, and we need to point them out to determine whether or not he's going to join. The criticism I got when I applied was that "I was stiff and looked liked a robot, and my replays weren't all that good". The only thing going for me was my balance, mas, and my determination to keep getting better. The criticism he got was "his replays were a little subpar and his editing was subpar (not professional)". What was going for him? Don't know, NO ONE POINTED OUT ANY. The only one I saw was that he could edit... that's it. Nothing gameplay wise. There's a difference between saying you'll get better, and actually doing it. He gave in to the criticism he should have taken advantage of to get better. We didn't imply anything, we pointed out his flaws. What else can we do? Give him lies? Tell him he's really good? No. He came to apply. I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say yes just to give him the chance I got. But if he's going to give up everything that easily, there's no point.