Originally Posted by Onamist

Marxism/Socialism has never worked long term or for that matter very well in the short term, what makes you think it can ever work?

Originally Posted by Onamist

You can pick that up by just socialising. I've learnt more about history just from talking to people than from 5 years of learning history in some form at school. Most of the history you learn in school is pointless anyway. The way I see it, learn from the mistakes of the past and then don't repeat them.

Originally Posted by Murmayder

It's the most logical solution.

Originally Posted by fat0ninja

And if kids can't just 'pick' it up? History is a vital part of our culture, and you can't just not teach it.

Originally Posted by Onamist

That may be so. But over the past several centuries of human civilisation, the logical solution has very rarely been the one that was implemented. Especially when it comes to something that effectively relies on people not being greedy.



Then they won't have learned about an event that will most likely never have been of any interest or relevance to them. History is only vital to culture to show us what not to do. After we know that, there is no point to it.

Originally Posted by Onamist

Then they won't have learned about an event that will most likely never have been of any interest or relevance to them. History is only vital to culture to show us what not to do. After we know that, there is no point to it.

Originally Posted by fat0ninja

So you're saying that we should just tell kids that what happened in the past doesn't matter?

Originally Posted by Onamist

History is only vital to culture to show us what not to do. After we know that, there is no point to it.

Originally Posted by GHB

pupils should be specialized much sooner. ...
why teach the ones who know that they are not going into that field anyway that kind of stuff?

Originally Posted by GHB

i mean, who is ever going to interpret poems after school?

Originally Posted by mikotaku

so what you're saying is, don't teach them history, just teach them history?
thanks for the help
what kids are learning in school is fine. the problem is that kids don't want to learn. especially when you get into high school, teenagers just want to get drunk and/or high rather than study.

what do you think will happen when everyone who didn't go into math can't perform simple mental math?

The only world I could imagine where people lacked the ability to interpret fine art would a horrible one

Originally Posted by GHB

lol generalisation
when you read my post you'll know what im saying. no need to repeat myself.

Originally Posted by GHB

pupils who'd chose to go into history would learn all the fancy stuff of course.
when did i say that people who go to a specialized school wouldnt learn math as well?
just not exessive.

Originally Posted by GHB

what?
mainstream media interpret stuff for people. only few smarties are interested in fine art

Originally Posted by mikotaku

congratulations. you just described a regular high school

mainstream media is part of the problem. when people are spoon-fed bulls**t like lady gaga and the twilight series, they don't learn how to think deeply on their own about controversial concepts and topics. they just find out that getting drunk and high is crunk, yo.