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There are many many parts of the world where people cannot be happy.
Happiness in life < Life

As for the legality of abortion, I don't think the practicality of outlawing or in the very least, regulating abortion tips the scale over. I have demonstrated how I think it's unethical, and I'm surprised by the lack of such analyses in political discussions about this topic.
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Originally Posted by RayA75 View Post
How can you justify that?
In my mind, objective goals such as life much outweigh the subjective goals that any one person has, such as happiness or convenience.

I think goal requires intent, and thus only applicable to sentient beings. 'Life' is no more a goal of the fetus than 'eruption' is a goal of the volcano. "Function" is a more fitting term.

New life is a biological function of the fetus, whereas finding a more suitable father is a goal.
Last edited by Odlov; Mar 21, 2012 at 04:25 AM.
Originally Posted by RayA75 View Post
There are many many parts of the world where people cannot be happy.
Happiness in life < Life

As for the legality of abortion, I don't think the practicality of outlawing or in the very least, regulating abortion tips the scale over. I have demonstrated how I think it's unethical, and I'm surprised by the lack of such analyses in political discussions about this topic.

In the end,I view the fetus as a bunch of genetic information that is of no signafance unless it develops.Therefore,killing it is not unethical.
While,you have a different perspective and I respect that.

Sorry for the random quote.
Last edited by William; Mar 21, 2012 at 05:38 AM.
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Originally Posted by Odlov View Post
I think goal requires intent, and thus only applicable to sentient beings. 'Life' is no more a goal of the fetus than 'eruption' is a goal of the volcano. "Function" is a more fitting term.

New life is a biological function of the fetus, whereas finding a more suitable father is a goal.

Sure. I'll concede that. Though, my point still stands that I think natural functions that lead to an effect should be as protected as that effect.
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Not ethical. Not normal in nature. Not good.
Human shouldn't decide about other human being.
Last edited by Trewnek; Mar 21, 2012 at 08:15 PM.
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Originally Posted by Trewnek View Post
Not ethical. Not normal in nature. Not good.
Human shouldn't decide about other human being.

When a couple decides to have a baby, are they not deciding that fate of another human by giving said baby life?
Originally Posted by Trewnek View Post
Not ethical. Not normal in nature. Not good.
Human shouldn't decide about other human being.

So you say that any form of contraception is unethical because it isn't natural?


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for me to do that it would have to be a really bad situation with poor income not very much money and a bad job
In my uneducated opinion, abortion is up to the mother, whether its ethical or unethical is entirely up to what a person decides is ethical or not, therefore meaning it is an opinion on that persons behalf on if its ethical. yes it is viewed as harsh, and in a sense murder, but its still legal so why argue about it?
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