Originally Posted by RayA75
No. We don't consider things immoral because of hygiene.
It was a joke.
I explained why religious texts don't apply to homosexuality.
I don't care about religous texts, they matter not. What does matter is shit like
this exists. Doesn't matter, gay people in some cultures are still persecuted for it. So don't try and pretend it doesn't happen, it does.
Prejudices don't change whether or not something is immoral or not.
And? What is your point?
Which again asks my question (though I should add an addendum)
Is there anything intrinsically immoral about homosexuality?
No, not at all. As I said before, of course not.
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Originally Posted by ImmortalCow
Meh Ray what a boring reply, it seemed like you were going to disagree with me considering how many quotes you used, but all you did was agree...
ja obviously, that's what I said...
ja obviously, that's what I said...
You are asking me where in the bible it says to kill people for arbitrary reasons..?
In the New Testament, yes.
Where is what term defined? I used like 18 words in that that sentence... More specific pl0xx.
I still didn't understand what you meant.
Originally Posted by EmpireSlay
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Why not? If 9/10 of society hates it do you think it will be passed? Even if it does get passed do you think society won't mock them?[/B]
If the law starting outlawing things because we didn't like them, and not because it was immoral, everything would be very backwards.
In some cases, not all. You just can't say every gay person was born with those genetics. I do believe some were born that way, I'm not gonna lie.
That fact that it is possible makes it so we can't discriminate against homosexuality as a whole just because not all of them aren't genetically homosexual. What if we were to outlaw heterosexuality because not all heterosexuals are genetically heterosexual?
Originally Posted by sireal
.It was a joke.
Sarcasm doesn't work over the internet.
I don't care about religous texts, they matter not. What does matter is shit like
this exists. Doesn't matter, gay people in some cultures are still persecuted for it. So don't try and pretend it doesn't happen, it does.
So you're going to disregard the fact that Christians are opposing gay marriage when their religious texts don't even apply to modern homosexuality?
Religious texts matter.
And I know cultures are persecuting homosexuals. I know this is a bad thing, and I'm not pretending it doesn't happen.
And? What is your point?
You said that cultural issues were being ignored. the ones you mentioned don't matter
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Originally Posted by RayA75
In the New Testament, yes.
Can't think of any off the top of him head; http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=bible+new+testament+kill
Originally Posted by RayA75
I still didn't understand what you meant.
Hey, you don't get to pretend to be confused, you just quoted part of my post and said "where is this term defined? certainly not here". If you say such a nonsense phrase then you give up your right to be confused when people ask you what the heck you were talking about...
Originally Posted by Murmayder
http://www.smh.com.au/world/evolved-...510-1ydsj.html
Obama thinks it's cool, Christianity did not invent the concept of religion, the denial of gay rights is a denial of human rights and thus is oppressive.
Opinions go.
Aaaah, this old chestnut.
It's all because people are people.
THOMAS: Pa, there's definitely a witch in the village, she was wearing her hat the wrong way and muttering to herself.
PA: Holy Mary Jesus, burn her at the stake for she carries a devils soul.
When there is somebody "different", not "normal", not socially "acceptable", then there's always a fuckhead who gets scared. What is this, where am I, they're the same gender, my mind is in the ocean.
Frantically, they hate on it, shun them, burn them, tell them to sit on the back of the bus, shoot millions of their own race, nuclear bomb the town they live in.
I, however, consider myself accepting. I have never had anything wrong with them. I don't know why people have to have an excuse for their opinion, like obama does. Oh god, human rights, my human rights say that I am being opressed by me being banned from spending the rest of my sad, cliche life with Robert.
The people who are so tied up on what people think of them are the extremists. The quite achievers are where it's at.
Love and be loved, why make a scene. If you can't get married then maybe the gay people should accept it themselves rather than whining about being accepted.
I mean if it's so lovely to be gay, go be gay and others won't.
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Fun fact: animals can be gay :3
Also, as an answer to empireslay, something like "9/10 doesn't like it so it must be bad".
In Sweden a lot of people was against making a law against hitting their children. (on a side note, the law passed) and now most of the swedes believe that hitting their children is not morally defendable, even in upbringing purposes. We swedes was among the first ones to allow gay marriage, if I remember correctly.
Also, as an answer to empireslay, something like "9/10 doesn't like it so it must be bad".
In Sweden a lot of people was against making a law against hitting their children. (on a side note, the law passed) and now most of the swedes believe that hitting their children is not morally defendable, even in upbringing purposes. We swedes was among the first ones to allow gay marriage, if I remember correctly.
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