Call me whatever you wish it just shows your lack of elegance in matters of the mind its quite crude and just ugly to look at basically, you should always respect someone else in a debate.
First things first i highly doubt that you know what causes people to commit homicide if you do then I'll give you a Nobel peace prize myself, unless you possess that knowledge please don't say that weed doesn't do this or weed doesn't do that because they simply aren't facts. They may not happen on a daily basis but weed does influence people to commit crimes, even you yourself just said not weed by itself, which still acknowledges that it contributes to said which is all the government needs to outlaw it.
Next up the science thing (however that got brought up) scientists predict a lot of things, in 2000 they thought we would have all sorts of technology by now, relying on someone elses projections and predictions makes you extremely gullible. In short yes you are stuck on ideology since everything you're saying is basically what if's, and in the future, its possible that people will not abuse it but its not likely, however it's a fact that it causes problems. The only concrete facts that you have is that Weed doesn't kill you directly, that it relaxes you and that people will buy it. Everything else is purely based on your personal beliefs which aren't worth a thing when there's mountains of reasons that have already been established as to why it shouldn't be allowed.
I believe that's everything except for the insults.
Also drugged, we can't take what happens at your school as the national standard for all of america. Even all the polls such as blah percent of Americans blah are ultimately inaccurate considering that not every American participates in these polls, and not all of them are truthful.
First things first i highly doubt that you know what causes people to commit homicide if you do then I'll give you a Nobel peace prize myself, unless you possess that knowledge please don't say that weed doesn't do this or weed doesn't do that because they simply aren't facts. They may not happen on a daily basis but weed does influence people to commit crimes, even you yourself just said not weed by itself, which still acknowledges that it contributes to said which is all the government needs to outlaw it.
Next up the science thing (however that got brought up) scientists predict a lot of things, in 2000 they thought we would have all sorts of technology by now, relying on someone elses projections and predictions makes you extremely gullible. In short yes you are stuck on ideology since everything you're saying is basically what if's, and in the future, its possible that people will not abuse it but its not likely, however it's a fact that it causes problems. The only concrete facts that you have is that Weed doesn't kill you directly, that it relaxes you and that people will buy it. Everything else is purely based on your personal beliefs which aren't worth a thing when there's mountains of reasons that have already been established as to why it shouldn't be allowed.
I believe that's everything except for the insults.
Also drugged, we can't take what happens at your school as the national standard for all of america. Even all the polls such as blah percent of Americans blah are ultimately inaccurate considering that not every American participates in these polls, and not all of them are truthful.
Last edited by AzureMage; Nov 10, 2012 at 12:27 AM.
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Originally Posted by ape
And you just know this how? This amendment wouldn't have passed if they knew tourists would screw it up. I don't see how you know more than the government does.
Out of context? I included and commented on everything you said! There's no other context besides that. It was the first post you made.
Oh, and how terrible your life must be!
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What happened to the other umpteenth posts I made? That's media for you.
Still even if they DIDN'T KNOW! they wanted to see how things would go about with these amendments but in the eyes of the federal government it's still an illegal drug. So I'm not understanding how it can be legal and illegal at the same time.
And sham I never said you couldn't argue.
The simple fact of you can pretty much flame put downs and other horrid nonsense amazes me that you won't get infracted. But the second I said "I could put down Romney but I won't do such things" gets me infracted... quite honestly GM team... that.... just wow.
But in all reality... I think I might be insane...
Originally Posted by AzureMage
Call me whatever you wish it just shows your lack of elegance in matters of the mind its quite crude and just ugly to look at basically, you should always respect someone else in a debate.
First things first i highly doubt that you know what causes people to commit homicide if you do then I'll give you a Nobel peace prize myself, unless you possess that knowledge please don't say that weed doesn't do this or weed doesn't do that because they simply aren't facts. They may not happen on a daily basis but weed does influence people to commit crimes, even you yourself just said not weed by itself, which still acknowledges that it contributes to said which is all the government needs to outlaw it.
Next up the science thing (however that got brought up) scientists predict a lot of things, in 2000 they thought we would have all sorts of technology by now, relying on someone elses projections and predictions makes you extremely gullible. In short yes you are stuck on ideology since everything you're saying is basically what if's, and in the future, its possible that people will not abuse it but its not likely, however it's a fact that it causes problems. The only concrete facts that you have is that Weed doesn't kill you directly, that it relaxes you and that people will buy it. Everything else is purely based on your personal beliefs which aren't worth a thing when there's mountains of reasons that have already been established as to why it shouldn't be allowed.
I believe that's everything except for the insults.
Also drugged, we can't take what happens at your school as the national standard for all of america. Even all the polls such as blah percent of Americans blah are ultimately inaccurate considering that not every American participates in these polls, and not all of them are truthful.
I think it's extremely funny that you spit bullshit facts out of your ass, and expect respect, especially after telling me that I am focused on "ideology". I'll give you respect when you stop contradicting yourself, and making yourself look like an idiot.
Haha
Also, weed doesn't contribute to homicides at all, and I never said that. First of all you said it causes homicides daily, and now your saying "it might not happen daily". You keep changing your facts, and like I said, they are bullshit.
Please, give me one story, with proof of a homicide that had to do with weed. It doesn't happen, EVER. You're wrong, wrong, wrong. People might be fucked up, and smoked weed, and then kill someone, but it wasn't the weed at all that killed someone. It can't turn normal people in to killers. Nuff said.
Also, you just basically called my opinion worthless. What makes you think that your is so superior to mine?
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Originally Posted by Agentmax
And sham I never said you couldn't argue.
The simple fact of you can pretty much flame put downs and other horrid nonsense amazes me that you won't get infracted. But the second I said "I could put down Romney but I won't do such things" gets me infracted... quite honestly GM team... that.... just wow.
That's your problem to take up with the staff. Maybe they play favorites, I dunno, but I haven't gotten infracted, and you have. I'm sure there's a reason for that.
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Originally Posted by DruggedPanda
About half the kids in my school smoke it, and there are a few that are just slackers and do bad in school, but even honor students are smoking it and doing better than most. So the arguement of pot being a cause of kids dropping out or doing bad in school is invalid.
Just an average day in the desert, right buddy?
Also, my local highschool (I don't go to it for implied reasons) has a cocain problem, kids do cocain in the bathroom stalls.
Sham, you're really...really atrocious at well...logic. It is one story if you can't keep up that's a personal problem, but let's shed the statics and get to the facts shall we.
The thing that makes my argument valid is the fact that weed messes with your head and contributes to irresponsible behavior, while yours is based on what you think and possibilities that might happen that is the single and most important thing in this argument...you don't have any ground to stand on. It's not even so much my opinion as so much it is stating common sense that drugs are bad for decision making and in the wrong hands can act as a catalyst to a lot of crimes large and small. The same can be said for any drug.
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http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs...26089409047377 18 counts of homicide with marijuana as a direct cause.
The thing that makes my argument valid is the fact that weed messes with your head and contributes to irresponsible behavior, while yours is based on what you think and possibilities that might happen that is the single and most important thing in this argument...you don't have any ground to stand on. It's not even so much my opinion as so much it is stating common sense that drugs are bad for decision making and in the wrong hands can act as a catalyst to a lot of crimes large and small. The same can be said for any drug.
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http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs...26089409047377 18 counts of homicide with marijuana as a direct cause.
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