they have already found it, the cia just won reveal it, just my belief though, no way in hell modern technology cant find it

Well, I'd disagree there. The area in which the plane could have crashed is still very large. Even with good satellite images, it's going to take a long while to see anything. And if you find something, pinpointing the place, going there by boat, ... is going to take a while, and by then, the object you saw might have relocated.

Besides, what would the motive for the CIA be?

As Arglax said, what motive could the CIA possibly have? I feel as if you're just saying this based off nothing.

question to anybody who knows:
How were they able to estimate the location and or that the flight pattern changed?

English company took the known flight path until the tracking device shut off. Using that information and known flight range, a possible flight area was made that stretched from the edge of the middle east (hence all the conspiracies of plane gonna be used for terror (even though that would make the plane fly into American military airspace)) to the southern parts of the Indian Ocean, extending out to about the Eastern coast of Africa.

From there, pings were detected from the blackbox coming from the Indian Ocean. Using the location data that could be gleamed from it, they established a likely crash area about the size of Texas, later reduced in size to about a large city. Now it's the process of finding a needle in a haystack, as they have to resort to sonar and submersible sweeps to find debris in that area. Not exactly easy.

As Oracle said, the blackbox decided to turn back on and ping, which gave them a general area to search in.

How could a plane that big that has a black box and full of people with phones that are traceable in 5 secs
with all the satellites above that screens every single second of the earth
disappear?
i think there is something
like there was someone on the plane that shouldn't have been there
ir something

I was waiting for somebody to mention the "big brother knows everything" conspiracy.

Is it really that hard to understand the limitations of today's technology? Recording the entire surface of the Earth through satellite images with enough detail to be able to distinguish something the size of a small shed, let alone debris from a wreck, at any given instance is impossible. You're either capable of high quality shots covering smaller areas of the world, or you have large shots that are too distant to distinguish anything other than cities.

Second, even if it was possible to record the entire planet in detail in real time, the storage capacity necessary to hold the data is just not plausible. It would require a massive facility beyond anything currently built to store a day of footage. The U.S. government only takes hourly shots in localized areas for this very reason. It's just not plausible to record on that massive a scale.

Lastly, even if we did have the means to record and store the data, that still would require manually locating the plane, as our current technology has trouble differentiating letters and symbols from gibberish, let alone a specific nondescript clump of pixels located within a huge mass of nondescript clumps of pixels. Using previous flight information would save time, but it's still a time consuming process. Considering our actual limitations on technology, even if we did have a shot of the crash, it would be very, very hard to find it because of the sheer size of the ocean in relationship to the plane.


And do you even know how you locate somebody using a cellphone? It's done by using triangulation. The cellphones signal would have to relay to 3 separate sources, while somebody is actively looking for the cellphone, and then using that signal to locate the cellphone based on signal strength between the 3 locations. It doesn't work if you can't get 3 sources to pick up on your signal, and if you go looking for it retroactively. And this is even assuming the cellphone is on. This was a flight, and you're supposed to turn off your phone during flights.


More importantly, why are these conspiracies still a thing? Every government involved in the search has made it clear they believe the plane has crashed in the Indian Ocean. Sometimes, everybody agreeing is a sign that it's probably right, not that it's a cover up or conspiracy.

Experience: Not a whole lot, my father's a pilot, commercial license class, and I've flown with him for years. So I'm far from an expert, or even intelligent on the issue. But it's an internet forum so what the hell.

When you file a flight plan, and you're going over the ocean, you're well aware that you're no longer being tracked until you're close enough for entry into the borders of another land mass.

In these types of situations, if you need to pass information on to a tower, you need to do what's called a "Relay". A relay is pretty simple, you make a call to "Relay such and such to the nearest tower", and nearby planes hopefully receive this message, and shoot it forward, so on and so forth until it's been...relayed to the tower.

There is no "may-day" call that the pilot just forgot to say. He can call mayday all he wants, but he probably wasn't heard by anyone.





think that just about sums it up. Definitely confirmation biases are exhibited, even within drug use today. The government makes a drug illegal, some goes and uses it and thinks he isn't experiencing side effects, all of a sudden- he's the biggest loudest most annoying advocate for it's legalization and thinks that anyone calling it unsafe is an absurdity. Just ask an bodybuilder whether or not steroids are safe.