Originally Posted by Oracle
Ice Climbers were powerful because they had great range and damage combined with their decent mobility and brutal grabs. Gimmicks don't put somebody in the top tiers, they can accent certain base features, but they aren't strong enough to move up in tier lists. Some examples would be Luigi's insane wavedashing in Melee, or Kirby's b being capable of a guaranteed kill if they break out when you've fallen off the ledge facing away from it; they were gimmicks that gave them some surprise factor, but they were just showy, the actual characters had either little or nothing working for them.
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Creati0n says: still my favorite. <3
I sacrificed my firstborn for this great human being to join (M) ~R
Just Use Thunder!
Anybody here excited for the Smash Invitational?
Also regarding E3 which is coming up soon, does anybody have any predictions or hopes to what will be announced? I personally think there's going to be an unexpected newcomer and a veteran announced, my guesses are on Pac-Man and Ness/Lucas
Also regarding E3 which is coming up soon, does anybody have any predictions or hopes to what will be announced? I personally think there's going to be an unexpected newcomer and a veteran announced, my guesses are on Pac-Man and Ness/Lucas
Last edited by TomWanks; May 28, 2014 at 10:02 PM.
I was arguing for Ice Climbers being worthy of high tier because their moveset was powerful, the fact that there is two of them is a gimmick that further accentuates it. If there was only one and the moves were slightly reworked to reflect that, Ice Climber could still be very high on the tier list because the moves would still be strong.
Nobody touched on the moveset and was only commenting on Nana gimmicks, which isn't where IC's strength comes from. Double hits are great, and double grabs are even better, but even just Popo is powerful, he just loses most of his vertical recovery.
Edit: and I'm still hoping konami gets a castlevania character in. Snake was cool and all, but I want dem whip combos.
Nobody touched on the moveset and was only commenting on Nana gimmicks, which isn't where IC's strength comes from. Double hits are great, and double grabs are even better, but even just Popo is powerful, he just loses most of his vertical recovery.
Edit: and I'm still hoping konami gets a castlevania character in. Snake was cool and all, but I want dem whip combos.
Last edited by Oracle; May 28, 2014 at 09:52 PM.
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Originally Posted by TomWanks
Regarding E3 which is coming up soon, does anybody have any predictions or hopes to what will be announced? I personally think there's going to be an unexpected newcomer and a veteran announced, my guesses are on Pac-Man and Ness/Lucas
what would his moveset be? I guess one of his attacks would be to bite the opponent, but I can't think of anything else... :I
Originally Posted by Oracle
Edit: and I'm still hoping konami gets a castlevania character in. Snake was cool and all, but I want dem whip combos.
man, that would be awesome.
Last edited by MintCat; May 28, 2014 at 10:02 PM.
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