uhm those are definally wrong translates of koran.
there is no kill them or something on it :l
send me the translated parts in arabic and i'll give you the right thing
oh and i just remembered something
did islam declared world war 1 and 2 ?
no it didn't germany,usa and others did
did islam made hiroshima bomb and killed millions of people
no it didn't
usa did
so pls look at the close things to you before looking to the far things coz it may hit you in your way

This is a bit beside the point.

You have your interpretation of the Islamic text and so does ISIS. You may not like their interpretation and disagree with it but it's an interpretation nonetheless.

Thank you for the offer, mind if I take you up on it?

3:56 and 8:12 are often quoted;
http://quran.com/3/56
http://quran.com/8/12

There are some more here:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pa.../violence.aspx

first of all the first one is saying god will punish them no people so that doesn't count
and the second one was talking about the past at the prophet when he was fighting polythiests coz they were trying to kill every muslim that exist and same for the stuff in the last link so yeah i'm still not convinced :l
acually a muslim should believe in isa and ismael
and one more thing:
http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/6-qur...edom-religion/

Oh for poops sake. Who is god going to punish for not believing in islam? Fucking goats? Or maybe the trees? Or maybe your kitchen equipment?
Im pretty sure he was talking about people here, the book being about guidelines for human beings and all.

Oh those damn polytheists who were trying to kill everyone, oh wait... When was that? Who were those polytheists attempting genocide?

You clearly are unable to have a rational, or even a somewhat reasonable conversation about this. I'd honestly appreciate if you did not post in this thread without actually checking with someone about what you are going to say since your arguments are absolutely abhorrent.

Also for poops sake #2. Just because there are peaceful teachings in a religion doesnt negate the wicked. Punching babies in the throat and helping the elderly afterwards doesn't make you a good person. (what an amazing example)

i was trying to type not people acually. not no people.
anyway i think you are right
talking with people who dont even follow a shit of they're religion is comepelelly useless anyway
also christian Contradictory with itself if you dont know.
say whatever you want coz i'm out

I'll take this infraction with open arms


This has to be the best argument for anything ever, I'm going to savour this as the absolute pinnacle of human interaction and argumentation.

"talking with people who dont even follow a shit of they're religion is comepelelly useless anyway"

The sheer beauty of this sentence just makes me tear up.


Wont make a new post for that post under me:

Wasn't it pretty obvious from the start that I'm not a part of any religion what so ever.

that mean you wont believe in any other religion if you dont even believe in yours.
sorry for being rude
now i'm really out

Great, there's six quotes that don't necessarily promote peace and tolerance.

1. The actual correct quote is “O You who believe! Enter absolutely into Islam. Do not follow in the footsteps of satan. He is an outright enemy to you.”
The word islam actually means submission, not peace. So "Enter absolutely into submission." Not as peaceful as it originally seemed.

2. “There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.”
This isn't a message of peace. It literally just says that you're not forced to be Muslim. It conveniently leaves out any sort of assurance that you won't be killed for your choice.

3. “You cannot guide those you would like to but God guides those He wills. He has best knowledge of the guided.”
This only says that only the people God wants to guide to Islam will be guided, not necessarily those you want to be guided.

4. “God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.”
This one is relatively peaceful. It says that it's okay to be friends with someone so long as they don't fight against you or other muslims because of their faith.

5. “We have appointed a law and a practice for every one of you. Had God willed, He would have made you a single community, but He wanted to test you regarding what has come to you. So compete with each other in doing good. Every one of you will return to God and He will inform you regarding the things about which you differed.”
This one means nothing in terms of peacefulness. This is the same god who urges his followers to kill anyone who isn't Muslim so his definition of good is obviously skewed.

6. “God does not love corruption.”
Again, this isn't a message of peace or tolerance. It just says that he doesn't like people who are assholes.

Meanwhile Pig's link gives you a ton of verses that are very explicit in their meaning.

Alpha, just because someone isn't doesn't mean that they can't criticize the religion.
That's like saying nobody except flat-earthers are allowed to criticize flat-earthers.. and you can guess how that'd go.

I think Howard Bloom made a great video of the history behind things though, if anyone's interested in that.
It's missing source though, it'd be nice if someone could confirm it's contents.
https://youtu.be/giiapwYL2U8?t=2m6s