Originally Posted by GenkiSudo
IMO its better to boycott eggs (or any other product) from such sources. Try to buy eggs from farms that actually raise their chicken in a natural and respectful manner. Do the same for any other type of industry. Boycott them, stop supporting them, support those who do it the ethical way. Its a fallacy if some lethargic person mumbles that its impossible/unpractical. These industries are not only destroying our health but they're also trying to destroy/distort our notions of ethics and morals.
Eggs from huge industries are cheaper. People like cheap. In fact, some people can only live cheap. Do you know why these large industries are cheaper? Because they do their shit in a practical and profitable way. What they're doing isn't torture, and the only way this is horrible is exactly what you said - their ethical code. Disposing of animals like trash is horrible, yes. But there are far more horrible things going on in the world to be pissed about, rather than thinking about the way barely concious animals die.
Another harsh truth: Your boycotting won't matter to these big industries. My boycotting won't matter either. No matter what you, me, and a few people in this thread, might do - it won't matter to these big industries. If you expected to change anything by posting here, you're wrong. If you tried to spark a discussion, you did right. But nothing will actually happen.
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Originally Posted by Dalir
Eggs from huge industries are cheaper. People like cheap. In fact, some people can only live cheap. Do you know why these large industries are cheaper? Because they do their shit in a practical and profitable way. What they're doing isn't torture, and the only way this is horrible is exactly what you said - their ethical code. Disposing of animals like trash is horrible, yes. But there are far more horrible things going on in the world to be pissed about, rather than thinking about the way barely concious animals die.
Another harsh truth: Your boycotting won't matter to these big industries. My boycotting won't matter either. No matter what you, me, and a few people in this thread, might do - it won't matter to these big industries. If you expected to change anything by posting here, you're wrong. If you tried to spark a discussion, you did right. But nothing will actually happen.
Okay Dalir. have you seen the documentary from the activists called "The Yes Men"? I recommend it to you. Cheap and profitable was the main reason behind slavery in the first place. There has to be a better bottom line than this unethical behavior. I'm sure we don't need these chicks being disposed like that when they could be used by other companies (who btw need to raise their own chicken) for food (the only acceptable reason to take an animal's life other than terminal disease, IMO).
Why have millions of chicken killed for no reason when they could be used for, lets say, companies like KFC, to produce food? This is just another example... they way KFC treats their chicken is another story.
Sure there are things far more worse. But I think we need to address as many as we can. Thats what I try to. I would love if most people did the same.
Sure my boycotting alone won't matter. But watch this video and you will understand:
btw... This is where I'm "coming from" when it comes to madly driven profit-centered industry:
Last edited by GenkiSudo; Sep 24, 2009 at 10:43 PM.
"There is enough on earth for everybody's need, but not for everyone's greed." - Mohandas Gandhi
Do I really need to explain the difference between enslaving and selling human beings and killing barely concious animals.
For the rest of your post: Yes, if they want to sell their chickens to KFC, why not? But they'll be killed there anyway.
The only strong point you really have brought up is morale/ethics. Yes, disposing of animals like garbage is horrible, I already agreed with you there. But it is the most humane way to do it. Talk KFC into contacting these industries, or vice versa - if you're that interested.
EDIT: Watching your videos, by the way.
For the rest of your post: Yes, if they want to sell their chickens to KFC, why not? But they'll be killed there anyway.
The only strong point you really have brought up is morale/ethics. Yes, disposing of animals like garbage is horrible, I already agreed with you there. But it is the most humane way to do it. Talk KFC into contacting these industries, or vice versa - if you're that interested.
EDIT: Watching your videos, by the way.
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Originally Posted by Dalir
Do I really need to explain the difference between enslaving and selling human beings and killing barely concious animals.
You don't need to explain the literal and practical difference, but you do need to acknowledge that I was talking about one of the main examples (the epitome, in fact) of how this profit-centered cult is tragically enslaving us all, one at a time, not just physically, we're beyond that already. Somebody even calls it modern day slavery. So.. I don't see what you're not getting when I mentioned it.
There is a link between enslaving and selling human beings and killing "barely conscious animals". That link is called "unethical business practices", which is, btw, condemnable no matter who suffers or dies. Even unethical business practices that fucks up our non-conscious, non-living world should be condemnable, don't you agree? I hope so.
Originally Posted by Dalir
For the rest of your post: Yes, if they want to sell their chickens to KFC, why not? But they'll be killed there anyway.
You didn't get it, did you? Sure they'll get killed. But at least for me, killing animals for food is more acceptable than killing animals because "you" basically hatched them while not really wanting them in the first place.
I say its better to have such a deal than to have both the hatchery disposing of millions of unwanted chicken every year while KFC (and other entities) are producing even more chicken at the same time. It could be managed in a more respectful and intelligent/efficient way, I believe.
Trivia: If you read about Asoka the Great, from ancient India, he was the very first emperor in the History of Humanity to condemn the lack of respect towards animals and the very first to promote a kind of prototype of the actual animal rights declaration. He condemned any aggression towards living beings and promoted the idea that the human society should be a responsible union who have the boon to care for its impact in the world. For him, ending animals lives was only acceptable/justified for nutrition purposes, for those who weren't vegan or couldn't be.
Originally Posted by Dalir
The only strong point you really have brought up is morale/ethics. Yes, disposing of animals like garbage is horrible, I already agreed with you there. But it is the most humane way to do it. Talk KFC into contacting these industries, or vice versa - if you're that interested.
EDIT: Watching your videos, by the way.
Thanks for at least recognizing that point and being assertive about this discussion while making it valuable. There could be some arrangements on how they deal with this issue. Personally I boycott them, just like I boycott any tuna can brand that is not certified that it does not contain dolphin meat. (another unethical business practice that was common until lately, thanks to legislation, Its a shame how we need laws to make them "pretend" they actually give a shit).
Last edited by GenkiSudo; Sep 25, 2009 at 04:15 AM.
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