Originally Posted by
Xtreme
Nice to know that 20 years equals a decade. Thank you for enlightening us all, oh great and mighty troll. And I'm talking about the U.S., and I also said the MAJORITY of attacks, not all of them. If you want to read posts selectively, do it in Wibbles.
Also, agreeing with Rutten on TACObells' points; your interpretation of the Qu'ran is not the one that matters; it's theirs.
So even though this is a debate about the rights of european muslims, you're talking about america, which is ridiculous really, considering that their were more people killed in the 2005 London bombings alone than have been killed in islamic terrorist attacks on american soil since 9/11 - and that includes attacks on embassies abroad, by the way.
oh hey - could that suggest that america, while largely to blame for shaking the hornets nest, is largely out of the picture regarding acts of terrorism against civilians? Well, yes, actually.. i mean there was the Beltway sniper, and the guy who rove a jeep into a crowd, but that's hardly on the scale of what europe has seen is it?
As for the 'majority of attacks' argument - well that's rather hard to back up with evidence, isn't it? I mean the majority of terrorist acts by muslims seem to be carried out against other muslims
in muslim countries, whereas this debate is about western countries, and the policies towards muslims 'over here'. I'd like to add the point that looking at the last decade alone is not enough, if one wants to have any understanding of the history and development of terrorism, which is why i gave the arbitrary statement of 20 years (incidentally, you need to look back further than this anyway to gauge the development of terror as a political force, and waaaay further back still to understand the conflict between the islamic world and the western one).
Now i'm gonna assume that you are an american, and therefore, like the
majority of americans, largely ignorant as to european and middle eastern affairs. The richest european countries (that would be places like Great Britain, Germany, France etc, by the way) have rather large muslim populations. These groups of muslims are very 'westernised', however, and should not be confused with the kind of extremist found more commonly in the middle east - the wearing of the Burqua is rather rare in europe already, and banning it would not be some sort of sweeping oppressive move. Most muslims who live here wouldn't be THAT concerned by it, and although it would offend some people, it is the right of the governments to pass laws like these.