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this thread has very negative vibes going on

all im saying is that that is fucked up, and i hope he gets raped by a black guy in prison.
Originally Posted by Odlov View Post
Yes. Very much so.

Needs sources, surprised I actually have to say that to you, of all people.

And assuming that all life recognizes that it is alive it doesn't mean it recognizes value-- value survivalistically, perhaps, but not on the philosophical/moral level assumed by Bio, Nero and Link.
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Heh, might as well make a serious post.

Nobody would care if it were a cow running down that cliff..or be chased down that cliff.
Whats the difference if its a dog ?
Both are obviously animals with a similar brain capacity, both are edible...and both can be trained to do stuff to amuse human beings.

Whats the difference ? Are we just gonna root for the dog due to our personal preferance ?
Meh. I still think its a waste of good food, especially in those parts of the world.

Edit: Peoples smarts dont really count here, its easy to see for every open minded person that there is animal abuse happening, it does every day for our convinience, millions of mice...rabbits..and other small animals get tortured every day so chicks can use eye liner that doesnt hurt our skin, men can shave without irritating their skin...its all around us, no big deal about ONE animal being abused. The only difference here is that its caught on tape.

i'm not going into the medical department now..it might get me infracted again.
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Originally Posted by Modius View Post
How so?

...It's obvious?
Not just from self-preservation behavior, but from acts which aim to preserve other life. It amazes me how oblivious people can be. Never owned a pet?

Originally Posted by Rutzor View Post
Heh, might as well make a serious post.

Nobody would care if it were a cow running down that cliff..or be chased down that cliff.
Whats the difference if its a dog ?
Both are obviously animals with a similar brain capacity, both are edible...and both can be trained to do stuff to amuse human beings.

Whats the difference ? Are we just gonna root for the dog due to our personal preferance ?

I would.
All animals with good and bad emotions have life value to themselves at least. If it has value to humans is another matter.

You don't see animals killing themselves at purpose.

But again we live on animals, we wouldn't exist without them. Someone has to die.
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Originally Posted by Galt View Post
First off, the hypothetical I posed wasn't even directed at you, it was towards the other moralfags like Nero and Bio.

I know it wasn't directed at me but this is open discussion, isn't it?
Originally Posted by Galt View Post
In a life or death situation, yes, I would kill you. It's not because I dislike you or anything, it's just that my life is more important than anyone elses. I would do anything possible to preserve my life.
So I'm selfish. So what? Why is it bad to be selfish?

I didn't say that it hinted at selfishness. That wasn't the point I was trying to prove. You cut off the rest of my post in your quote.

Originally Posted by KiTFoX View Post
I strongly disagree with that. We are just another animal. Albeit we are more advanced, we don't own this planet, we're inhabitants. It's not our place to decide whose life is "worth more." Of course I wouldn't kill myself for a rat. That is a silly question though. Just because I don't want to sacrifice myself to save a rat doesn't mean his life is worth less than mine. That just means I don't want to die.

That was my point.
seriously thats messed up, the puppy didn't do anything to them and they still dont give two shits, what kinda marines do that?
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Originally Posted by CRASH3R View Post
seriously thats messed up, the puppy didn't do anything to them and they still dont give two shits, what kinda marines do that?

What did any animal down the food chain do to you ?

At least this puppy had a chance to survive the crash
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@ KF; The selfishness part was directed at everyone. It's an open discussion isn't it? ; )

I strongly disagree with that. We are just another animal. Albeit we are more advanced, we don't own this planet, we're inhabitants. It's not our place to decide whose life is "worth more." Of course I wouldn't kill myself for a rat. That is a silly question though. Just because I don't want to sacrifice myself to save a rat doesn't mean his life is worth less than mine. That just means I don't want to die.

Why isn't it our place to decided who's life is worth more? We are the most advanced race. You say we are animals. Well then, as animals, it would be natural of us to kill that which is weaker than us.