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/ontopic techie type books are annoying: "The hypoelectrical thesis states that protocol must dictate an anthropodigal antroinsumation of the asymetric algorythm."

I hate the above.

LIES! i hear lies!!

Let me rephrase that AGAIN:
COOL kids read all those bad ass books like "The blah blah blah from the black lagoon" and they dont read harry pot head books because it makes them look nerdy. STUPID kids read what ever books they read so there brains can help them catch up on what the COOL kids are doing.

How about that?
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Originally Posted by JayStar View Post
I've received letters in the mail from friends, and they write in txt speak. Not as formal as a letter to Obama, but still show some class.
By the way, these are my opinions, I understand you may feel different and that's fine.

I hardly think a letter to a child is a formal situation...

Originally Posted by JayStar View Post
I'll choose other. I can understand it, but sometimes it takes me a while to figure out what they're trying to say. Example. (This is from a friend who recently texted me) "Wat tim is the 5pm game?" My answer.. 5? Turns out he meant something like, "Is the game at 5pm?"

So that would be "can't understand it then" wouldn't it...


Originally Posted by JayStar View Post
I do, you said:

That assumption.

Please clarrify in what way you don't agree with that statement.

Your disagreement doesn't make much sense compared to your above statement saying that you find it puzzling and it takes you a while to (mis)understand it.

Originally Posted by JayStar View Post
Watching a movie with friends is more social your right, I won't argue that. But, books can be easily shared, if you discuss it with someone else who has read the book. Find my quote where I said books are more active. I may have said books contain more detail. I've never heard anyone say, "lets go watch the movie instead of reading the book because then we can all share the experience. They may have said, "lets go watch the movie, it's faster than reading the book." Which is fine. I like to do both read the book and watch the movie. But usually it's a kid saying "I don't want to read the book, it's easier to just watch the movie." And that's where I find it a bit lazy. To never have read a book, just because it's easier to watch the movie.

> too lazy to read books = books are more active <

And so what is wrong about not reading books? Once again, is this an elitism thing?
I have friends who read a bit, friends who read a lot, friends who don't read, and you would not be able to tell the difference between them.
I find I read plenty in every day. In school, playing games, on the forums here. I really don't think it's a problem. Sure many kids don't read, but actually some books aren't that interesting and thats all they were ever exposed to and so they don't read.

I learn a lot of vocabulary playing games, from random universes that draw inspiration from the real world.

Also don't some of you guys ever say that literature has no value. It is written for a reason. Most movies are made for a reason. Sure you have Aliens and people with guns and a lot of action but there is an underlying lesson under all of it. Some people just don't look hard enough or watch hard enough and it flies right over their head and those people watch movies for no reason other than entertainment.
Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
I hardly think a letter to a child is a formal situation...

Not a child. Most of my friends are 16. It just seemed weird to read a hand written letter that's written in txt speak.


Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
So that would be "can't understand it then" wouldn't it...

That case yes. Sorry I should have been more clear, that was a more extreme case. Otherwise it just takes some time to understand.



Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
Please clarrify in what way you don't agree with that statement.

I don't find it to
Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
be the equivalent of Kansai dialect!

Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
> too lazy to read books = books are more active <

Sorry I'm not sure what your getting at...

Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
And so what is wrong about not reading books? Once again, is this an elitism thing?

No! Not at all, I even said this:
It's not like I feel I'm above everyone else I just don't like it.

And right now, I'm just arguing my opinion. I DO NOT feel everyone should feel the same as me.
Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
I have friends who read a bit, friends who read a lot, friends who don't read, and you would not be able to tell the difference between them.

I agree, I read a lot, and my friends had a hard time believing it. This is NO elitism thing.



Robert, as entertaining as that was, I don't think it was on subject with this discussion.
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Books aren't anything bad, and storytelling is one of the great things about society.
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Originally Posted by JayStar View Post
Not a child. Most of my friends are 16. It just seemed weird to read a hand written letter that's written in txt speak.

My country doesn't recognize 16 as an adult. (Neither does the UN :S)

... Actually which country are you? I can't think of any that confer full rights on 16 year olds...


[QUOTE=JayStar;4492393]I don't find it to[/QUOTE
And why is that..?

Kansai dialect is difficult for Japanese to decipher, which is parallel to you finding "txt speak" difficult to decipher.

Where does the analogy fail?

Stop saying "it just does"!

Originally Posted by JayStar View Post
Sorry I'm not sure what your getting at...

Lazy = not enough motivation to put in effort
Thus you imply reading books is more active...


[QUOTE=JayStar;4492393]No! Not at all, I even said this:
And right now, I'm just arguing my opinion. I DO NOT feel everyone should feel the same as me.[quote]
That is not mutually exclusive to being elitist.

Originally Posted by JayStar View Post
I agree, I read a lot, and my friends had a hard time believing it. This is NO elitism thing.

Then why think it is better?
I think that kids don't read enough literature, because school doesn't let them choose books they want to read. School gives a list and "forces" children to read unwanted books. I don't care if that is necessary for education. There are much more books suitable for education program, but nobody gives a shit. I enjoy reading books, but even in 11th grade I don't have ability to choose.
Do it with style or don't even bother doing it.
Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
My country doesn't recognize 16 as an adult. (Neither does the UN :S)

... Actually which country are you? I can't think of any that confer full rights on 16 year olds...

US, And I never said they were adults. I Just mean at 16 they should know that writing a letter in txt speak is a bit immature.


Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
And why is that..?[?QUOTE]

Kansai dialect is difficult for Japanese to decipher, which is parallel to you finding "txt speak" difficult to decipher.

Where does the analogy fail?

Stop saying "it just does"!

I don't know when I did.. but sorry. And your right in the sense that understanding it is difficult. But Kansai dialect has been around for over one thousand years. Text speak has been here for what? 10, maybe 20 years? I guess what I'm saying is that you'd almost be flattering it. Since it's not used in anything important, just some teens that had to shorten a text so they don't pay too much. And it just kind of stuck.

Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
Lazy = not enough motivation to put in effort
Thus you imply reading books is more active...

Okay, come on. There's 2 definitions of lazy. One of them is what you said. The other would be moving slowly and gently. Reading a book takes time, and kids don't seem to want to take that time, vs watching a movie.

Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
That is not mutually exclusive to being elitist.

Do I make it more clear by saying txt speak isn't worse than proper English, just very annoying?


Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
Then why think it is better?

I don't, ^
Every one gets to choose there books a the school libary. The only thing that could hold you back from reading your book is your lvl or something like that
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