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Originally Posted by LaNoir View Post
Yes, but how did that change how anyone lived?

The title is asking where do we see the world in 60 years, as if implying that it will be totally different from how it is now.

Free access to satellite photography of a good 95% of the Earth through Google Maps? Which is accessible from anywhere with a modern smartphone, which also didn't exist before the moon flight, which was less than 60 years ago.
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Not everyone uses google earth, most of the world can't even afford a computer.

There are plently of people living with out any of this stuff.

I'm saying that if the world is going to be different in 60 years then something big has to be invented that hasn't already been invented, bringing up the past is irrelavent to the topic at hand

if the world is going to drastically change in 60 years something has to be big enough to make this change noticable by everybody.
Originally Posted by LaNoir View Post
Yes, but how did that change how anyone lived?

The title is asking where do we see the world in 60 years, as if implying that it will be totally different from how it is now.

I'll back up a bit further, if you like. The first patents for what we would call crude automobiles were granted in the 1870s, about 30 years before the first flight. Would you like to tell me that flight didn't change the world?

The first steam engine locomotive journey took place in 1804, slightly over 60 years before automobiles. Did the invention of cars and trains not change the world either?

Originally Posted by LaNoir View Post
Not everyone uses google earth, most of the world can't even afford a computer.

There are plently of people living with out any of this stuff.

And that takes away from the massive importance of computers... how? The fact that not everyone has a computer does not change the fact that the infrastructure of most of the world is dependent upon them.

Originally Posted by LaNoir View Post
I'm saying that if the world is going to be different in 60 years then something big has to be invented that hasn't already been invented, bringing up the past is irrelavent to the topic at hand

Actually, looking at the past is entirely relevant to the topic at hand. We make predictions about the future based on the trends of the past.
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*sigh* it did.

What I am saying is what can be invented now that can change the world in 60 years?

Almost nothin, unless we can either come up with a way to teleport or something even close to it.

All in all I think that the world will not change drastically in the next 60 years cause what we have already has made such an impact that if we try to change shit it will just mess everything up.
I'd like to draw attention to something I said earlier, LaNoir.
Why do you insist that machines like flying cars will be the cause of the next revolution? The internet has given a name for the age we live in today, "The Age of Information." I'd say that's a pretty revolutionary technology.

Another thing, you say things are not drastically different because everyone cannot notice it.

The Agricultural Revolution has not been noticed by nomadic tribes living in Africa. Teleportation/ Flying cars will not be noticed by everyone, much less be afforded by people other than say billionaires.
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Originally Posted by LaNoir View Post
All in all I think that the world will not change drastically in the next 60 years cause what we have already has made such an impact that if we try to change shit it will just mess everything up.

Hey, I bet that's exactly what people were saying 60 years before space travel, 60 years before flight, 60 years before cars, 60 years before trains... Am I being too subtle here?

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Originally Posted by Ray View Post
I'd like to draw attention to something I said earlier, LaNoir.


Another thing, you say things are not drastically different because everyone cannot notice it.

The Agricultural Revolution has not been noticed by nomadic tribes living in Africa. Teleportation/ Flying cars will not be noticed by everyone, much less be afforded by people other than say billionaires.

So really, this is based on personal preference because what might change for people here in the us may not change for people else where.
Originally Posted by LaNoir View Post
So really, this is based on personal preference because what might change for people here in the us may not change for people else where.

Uh, no. Once again, the fact that X has not affected Y subpopulation does not in any way diminish X's significance for the world as a whole.

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Originally Posted by LaNoir View Post
*sigh* it did.

What I am saying is what can be invented now that can change the world in 60 years?

Almost nothin, unless we can either come up with a way to teleport or something even close to it.

All in all I think that the world will not change drastically in the next 60 years cause what we have already has made such an impact that if we try to change shit it will just mess everything up.

"Everything that can be invented has been invented"

I take it you don't work in a research field? Not long ago a professor in my department authored a paper about speeding up object recognition in 3d vision from n^4 to n^2, which in practice means recognition is 900 times faster. Amazing things are being invented every day.

Not long ago complete trials were carried out at encoding data in to dna and reading it back, and so was creating organic logic circuits that would encode their results in to their own DNA - you can literally grow a list of all primes. Not too long ago there were trials for transmitting data through phase linked photons - a precursor for quantum computing - and potentially FTL data transfer. Within 10 years quantum computing will probably explode.

Every day ridiculously amazing things are invented. Are you seriously not excited about the future? How can you think "hardware power has doubled every 18 months, but not this year, this is the end, we are done"? Do you know what kind of things we can do with such amazing hardware? Every year a new problem set is available for cracking. Recently we have also seen the advent of quantum locking, and there has been continued research in electrogravitics since the late 1990s.

Please be more excited that you live in such an amazing time in human history.
Last edited by ImmortalCow; Feb 26, 2013 at 08:40 AM.
Hope you don't want me to read through every bit of this thread to be able to post my opinion. Read about 3 pages.
So i'd just like to say that there will be no doomsday, mega problem or catastrophy.
Neither will there be a huge leap in tech just like that.
Imagine someone discovered the best building material ever. *Chough* grafen *chough*
No one is going to tear down and replace a city with it. It'll only be used in the frontier of technology and as that frontier is moved forward that good tech will be available for common people.
Some people here are great at expressing their opinion (wich is somewhat based on facts even though it's not linked here) but there's also the people throwing in the doomsday argument and for that i'd just want to say that you should be cautius.
These theories are made by people without any education in the subject.
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Hope this made some sense. Never been good at transfering thought to text :3
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