Originally Posted by JayStar

No, just from seeing the video and knowing it was a planted bomb (by whatever motivation) it's an act of terror. It was placed in a way to inflict maximum damage. It wasn't put in the middle of the street, or down an alley. It was put right where people would be standing. For that reason, it's an act of terror.

Originally Posted by deprav

I'm not blaming each people of this country, I said USA because that happened there but that could apply to any "economicaly competitive" country in the world. Why shouldn't we blame the country in which the bombing happened if the previous decisions of this country led to this particular event ? Countries are symboles, entities we decided to cultivate.

I mean like, lets take France for exemple; the relations between France and certain countries of Africa has been "dubious" for ages. Our politics still back-up weird putschs and get involved in the elections of presidents with autocratic tendancies to be sure they'll still have control over their ressources and obscure founding for their political campaigns here... If one day some dude from one of this countries decide to make a bombing in France, why wouldn't we blame France for putting his country in misery ?
Or if a random Joe who lost his job goes mad (some people go mad over jobs) and start a rampage somewhere, because of the result of some internal bullshit job politic or something... that's not directly the fault of France but more like the general world direction, but if the guy lives in France, he'll do that there.

"As if, the whole countries environment is coherent." (I'm not sure I got what you meant there, but I'll still shit a text ;p)

That's mainly the point ! It's not coherent. Countries political systems work in totally absurd fashions, maybe we can find a little bit of "economical coherence" (yerk), but humainly it's absurd. Democracies which ain't so democratic and such...
As I said in some previous post : "That's apparently how we decided to live : we let some people drown, and we let some others put people's heads under water."
Some people have been drowning for too long and just can't take it anymore, some of them only see violence as a way to express it, and mainly because the society they live in failed to educate them.


Actually, countries are all there is to blame for such events, for being symbols cultivating nationalist ideas, for not having protected their citizens against the "man eating financial system", and for robbing other countries and their people for their own interest. They are all there is to blame because they did nothing when they had to.
Actually lets push it further : we're the people making the countries, we want to be in democracies but just fucking sit on our asses and complain! WE should take our responsabilities and stop being little whinny bitchz and blame "terrorism" like it's inhuman everytime something bad happens. WE made it happen.
You and I are as responsible for the Boston bombing as any turdshit human just complaining and sitting on his ass, or just working a brainwashing job 'till he dies, like a fucking robot.
Hate doesn't come from nothing.

FUX PEOPLE, I'm gonna bomb something! wololololo
//extrapolation off.

Lets be a bit wiser :
Does that show how "everything" can be blamed when the world's going to shit ? When people starts slaughtering kids at school and bombing peaceful marathons, you can't just point fingers and say "Dis is bad!", That's just the top of the iceberg, a consequence. The individual is to blame as much as the country, as much as the other people.
That's how things work, people make countries and countries make people. The individuals make the group, but the group makes individuals.

Accusing this or that then just become a matter of point of view from which you stand when it happens, and subjectivism. If you see the whole picture, you can't blame anything, those are just "logical" consequences of how the human race's managing itself, since 80% of us can barelly make a logical decision.

Originally Posted by Dr_Strangelove

One of the suspects is currently in a car chase with police. Reports say shots have been fired and explosives thrown. This guy is basically doing his best to get to 6 stars, all he needs to do now is cross a closed bridge.

EDIT: I made a pretty big edit but lost the post when I closed the wrong tab. But most of you can read so I guess it doesn't matter.

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/co...ort=confidence
http://i.imgur.com/aqmChlv.jpg
https://dchtm6r471mui.cloudfront.net...urepicture.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHjRRhdI-Ag
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22213651

Originally Posted by JayStar

Sir, please point me to the quote where I linked the Boston bombing with 9/11. I beg you to.
You're the one who's interrupting it as such. I never thought any of this was tied to 9/11. In fact, I immediately said, once this was first reported, that people are going to tie this to 9/11.

An act of terror is any action that displays violence towards civilians in order to promote a goal or idea. It has nothing to do with the bomber or past events. Assuming their was a motive behind the bombing, then most likely it is an act of terror.
If however, there is no motive and was merely done to hurt people, it will not be considered as such.

well you're talking very general, and in a way I agree. Their is this feeling of helplessness of not being to able to do something. The way things are set up is that police are supposed to take care of the security of a country, but you can't let's say blame america for this bombing for the reasons I'll state:

1- the person might be a psychopath and just was aiming to hurt.
2- you don't know the environment he got into. Everywhere in the world, you're bound to find criminal and thugs for whatever reason. Maybe, he's been raised to hate a certain person and that bombing was aimed at him? All a country can do is provide the security through police etc.. and psychologists to help the ones who'e been off-track(specially teenagers, young adults). But, in the end, the person might still decide to take the wrong decision. As we saw in the media coverage, those things don't happen daily in the US. I'm not sure about their crime rate, and I'd fathom policies which are used in England for example which have a much lower crime rate. But what can you say.. I wish their was an anarchist society :P

Originally Posted by Turtlenecks

Wesmrocks- that's false information. He died on his way to hospital. His body was marred with bullet wounds and shrapnel wounds.

The suspects are two brothers from Chechnya. The older brother died on his way to hospital after a standoff with police a few hours ago. The second is currently being pursued by the authorities.

His name is Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev. This is his Russian-Facebook page.
http://vk.com/id160300242

He is Islamic, so there's possibly a religious motive behind the bombing.

edit:
The name of the dead, older brother is Tamerian.
This is Tamerian's Youtube page.
http://www.youtube.com/user/muazseyf...ow=grid&view=1

They're both Islamic. Tamerian has a playlist called 'Terrorists'.

Originally Posted by ImmortalCow

"act of terror" "terrorist" etc have specific connotations and emotional connection.

Originally Posted by ImmortalCow

It was completely unnecessary for you to use that term, so I assumed you were trying to move it in the direction of "arabs are evil".

Originally Posted by ImmortalCow

If you were honestly using it meaning merely an act that invokes terror, ok then. But understand that words do have emotional contexts.

Originally Posted by Hyde

That is VERY strange. I saw him get arrested last night live on CNN, they made him undress, put him up against a wall, took several pics of him, clothed him, tossed him in the back of a police car. He did not look injured/wounded one bit.