Originally Posted by Sacrafan

Are you implying that you believe 9/11 was a conspiracy by the government/CIA/Bilderbergers/Rothchilds/Rockefellers/Bohamian Grove/Illuminati?

Because that'd pretty retarded.

What I've seen of the Zeitgeist movie is based on lies and polemics. Reminds me of North Korea's propaganda videos now that I think of it.
You should check it out. )o(

Originally Posted by Sacrafan

…zeitgeist is all about conspiracies.
If you don't want your opinions to be challenged that's fine by me.

Originally Posted by dannyrug

My mom works in a church, so I go weekly but not by choice. One of the priest there said that people are losing fear of god and that is why there are more and more atheist. My one question is why should people fear god if he loves everyone and wants the best for them.

Originally Posted by deprav

Differences are what make the world turn. Can you imagine if we were all the same ? The world would be sad and boring...

Differences are cool, the important thing is tolerance.

We'd probably be in space and shit if we all thought as one and worked in uniformity

Originally Posted by deprav

I don't think so. Our technological and scientific advances have been made by some people smarter than the rest, intellectual capabilities and interest into a specific subject being differences etc...
No differences would mean no knowledge as well. Our shared knowledge comes from the fact many different people explored the subject they were interested in and wrote about it.
Would mean no art as well.
Just nothing.

To be "ants able to go to space", we would probably have to be a specie of geniuses only, with innate knowledge of our environment.

If we evolved behaving like "human ants" with no identity, I think we'd mostly have ended up naked, living in hives, with tendancies for cannibalism. There wouldn't be one's dream to lead us somewhere, we would only care about the "durability" of the specie. We wouldn't have any idea about the concept of happiness/sadness etc...

Anyway, that's just random speculations about evolution.

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About Zeitgeist, I personnally saw it, and the 2nd one as well. It's not really about conspirationism, althought it does ask the questions about 9/11, but it doesn't give any answer. It basically says people should doubt about the official version, being a bit critical toward what medias repeat mindlessly.
I think Zeitgeist is more about what men are capable to do, in the name of money and power, values our actual system praises. It doesn't say "believe in this or that", it's more about how control and power corrupts people. There's no conspiracy and evil people, only men living by the principles of their political environment and taking advantage of their positions when they have the chance to do so.

The second zeitgeist is about alternative society models, it's pretty cool.

Heard of the partition of India? It's still an ongoing conflict between Pakistan and India.

Millions of Muslims and Hindus slaughtered each other. Muslim would walk into towns and kill every man who wasn't circumsised and vice versa. People from both countries still hate the shit out of each other.

The friction different beliefs can cause is immense. Blaming few powerful people does not work as they require the consens of the masses to operate.