Originally Posted by Oracle
Why does it have to marginalize a group to be a problem? Why isn't the fact that you're marginalizing an individual more important than the wide-reaching effects of social influence on modern vocabulary? Would it be more acceptable if I called somebody stupid rather than retarded because I'm now no longer marginalizing the mentally handicapped, ignoring the fact that I'm still insulting the individual?
The real question is not why one form of insults are more acceptable than another, but why any form of insult is acceptable. That's the real double standard.
I think it would be more acceptable calling someone stupid rather than calling them retarded. Because there's a cure for being stupid , it's called a Book, but it takes years, and years for the mentally handicapped to improve if they ever improve. And we do have Smart/Stupid people as much as it is an oxymoron, it's true. Smart people tend to look passed certain things and sometimes act socially retarded.
Originally Posted by Thellian
You both have missed my point, which is that it's disappointing that homophobic remarks aren't met with the same "sensitivity" as racial ones. You claim that racism is more sensitive because of it's history, implying the opposite about homosexuality. You both argue that since the gay community is smaller than the black community it's less important to deal with homophobia than racism. This is an unacceptable viewpoint as far as I'm concerned.
Originally Posted by Thellian
You think a child will become gay if he sees two men together? Who taught you such nonsense?
I think azure put it best. The reason the two cases arent dealt the same, with the same sensitivity is because they arent the same sensitivity. The sensitivity is how the people feel about the topic, and homophobic slurs arent a sensitive topic like racism. The way people feel about racism isnt all about the history, prejudice towards the color of ones skin can be hurtful, whether or not its intended to or not, even when it is not directed towards you.
anyways I think this thread is starting to argue how come jokes/insults toward homophobia isnt restricted by communities, not just toribash(I know because I already answered why its allowed in tb) Its simply the sense of humor which is accepted at the moment. If someone is discriminated against in tb because they are homosexual, offenders would still be banned, as well as if someone went to far in "jokes". like I already said in the example that happened earlier this year. Someone was going around asking for pictures of users threw whispers and he had damn near 100 people report him.
racism offends a large group of people, insults and jokes, which is why its a more sensitive topic, thats the answer we have been feeding you for days now, but you refuse to accept it.
Originally Posted by Thellian
You think a child will become gay if he sees two men together? Who taught you such nonsense?
I didnt said that
I just said that if a child sees it , it can be disturb their views of sexuality , and maybe it will affect the child in the future.
You talking about nonsense? You who wanna make more rights for gays? They already have enough.
They can march\protest or idk. for their rights, in some country they can adopt children and etc.
But we , straight people doesn't protest with the text "I'm hetero and I'm proud of that" , maybe because we can have children , family etc.
But if we do , like a protest against the gays protest , then we are just attacked by the police ...
Its ok to be gay , just dont force it upon us and dont get this out to the street.
We dont care
Last edited by 1TheV; Jul 6, 2013 at 12:01 AM.
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