Originally Posted by protonitron

I will give a quote the writer Samuel Johnson to make myself seem more intelligent than I actually am: "Depend upon it, sir, when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully."

When you know you only have before you die you are not likely to get distracted and forget about it. People with near death experiences (the kind where they stay concise, not the one where they mistake their brain shutting down for going to heaven or something like that) often experience extremely fast thought and notice everything about that moment before what would be death if they hadn't have survived to tell the tail. We know that through hypnotism the brain can recall shockingly detailed and accurate memories which the patients did not even know they had so it is far from impossible that the brain would start to over focus if it realised that it could turn into a jam like substance on the pavement several stories below it. It is possible (in my extremely unprofessional and unqualified opinion) that the brain might not always maintain this state of awareness in order to avoid damaging itself like a computer can if it overheats. Maybe the body realises that it doesn't matter too much if you become a bit brain damaged and pumps all the adrenaline it has left into any receptor cells close enough before you hit the ground.

Nevertheless I understand that depressed people can seem almost unstable as a result of how irrational they are but I do not think this is true. Although the usual cliches of telling people they have a lot to live for and that they are beautiful over an internet chat room to try to cheer them up is obviously futile, I would argue that (from personal experience) simply offering friendship and also logical and realistic advise can help people. You don't need to say "everything will get better" to depressed people because this will not work, just explain that you want to give any advise or opinion about anything to help them. If you agree with people about how terrible some things are but tell them that other things aren't so bad then this is probably (in my unprofessional and slightly more qualified opinion) going to help a bit more than mindless generic hollow compliments and cliche instagram quotes about life.

I think what I am trying to say is that people who jump off buildings are not so much more illogical then everyone else. If we were more logical we would be computers, the brain is messy, they tried to make a computer like the brain but because of the size the signals leaked and it got inaccurate and slowed it down. The development team then realised this was what happens in the brain, signals leap between synapses causing unprovoked thought. Possibly millions of people still believe that people from different nations are not as valuable as them, racism is proof of the lack of logic in modern society. This doesn't stop anti racism campaigns. We are all illogical and that isn't always bad so if, in a lapse of rational though, someone thinks the only way out is to kill themselves then this doesn't mean they are, in general and on average, unreasonable people. I think most people (and certainly me) have, at several stages of their life, done illogical things. When I say illogical I don't mean absent minded and forgetful, I mean overreacting over something small and destroying something valuable (In my case it is usually something I have made, like a paper flower or a friendship) or doing something with large and undesirable consequences.

Sorry for my disordered writing style and my vendetta against correct punctuation. I hope it wasn't to hard to decipher. Thank you for reading
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When I say personal experience I mean by trying to prevent someone from killing themselves over the internet as I have already mentioned. I think my friend's (I only know him through the internet and by trying to help him but we shared some fun moments while chatting so to me he is a friend) recovery is proof that people can recover from "that point". he did try to kill himself and thankfully failed and is now recovering and the last time I talked to him he said he was getting better.

I don't want to say this to try to prove that I am a good person, I only talked to them because they listened to me and thanked me at a time I was feeling pretty irrelevant so my actions were partially selfish. I only mentioned it because it is relevant to the discussion and to encourage other people to give that kind of support because often it is quite rewarding.

Once again, thank you for reading.

Originally Posted by Kradel

If God wanted you to commit suicide he would have added: Thou shalt end thy life. To the 10 commandments.

When your thinking about commiting suicide remember that your alive, your the lucky one.

Originally Posted by Kradel

If God wanted you to commit suicide he would have added: Thou shalt end thy life. To the 10 commandments.

When your thinking about commiting suicide remember that your alive, your the lucky one.

Originally Posted by Ferras

Sure, it solves your problems, but it gives everyone around you problems.

Surely, there are other means than suicide that can help you with your problems. Sometimes it's just hard to see what other options you have.



And wow, I'm pretty religious myself, but that is just plain dumb.

Originally Posted by pal

it gives problems to people around you because it's an emotional shock for them and an unexpected event they never thought it could happen. if they knew you wanted to do it beforehand they'd be able to try to fix you up and eventually everything would be fine (hopefully).

ps: ferras check pms ;~;