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[GM]Survey results



Hello, my dear players! Thank you very much for filling our survey. We've got 487 responses, which is a pretty good result. The time has come to show you some statistics and comment on the whole thing.

Basic information
If I were to sum up the whole survey in one sentence, I'd say - We're doing a good job, although there are still things we could improve.
Our average result from scale questions is 3,36. We consider 5, 4 and 3 to be 'passing' grades, while 2, 1 and 0 are fails. So in general, we passed.
It is also important to know who voted and what are general tendencies.
Most of the votes - 54% - came from people, who play Toribash for more than one year and less than four years. Average result in that group is 3,29.
33% of votes came from people, who play Toribash for more than four years. Average result in that group is 3.55.
11% of votes came from people, who play Toribash for less than a year. Average result in that group is 3.74.
2% of players wrote an inappropriate information regarding their toribash career.
As you can see, 'the youngest' players voted the highest, which isn't surprising. The most harsh votes came from the the largest demographic, which probably consists of the most active players. The 'older' players were a bit more kind. We appreciate all of the votes.



Few words about the questions

What are the responsibilites of GM team?


Rate the accessibility of GM Team members


How helpful are members of GM Team?


Rate the number of in-game events the team hosts per week


Rate the number of forum events the team hosts in general


How entertaining are our in-game events?


How entertaining are our forum events?


Rate the prizes that GM Team gives out for in-game events


Rate the prizes that GM Team gives out for forum events


What kind of in-games events would you like to see more of?


What kind of forum events would you like to see more of?



Popularity poll
Questions about your favourite and least favourite GMs were not necessary to answer but we still got a lot of votes there. Are you excited to know the results? Here they come.

Votes for favourite GMs


Votes for least favourite GMs


This survey did not include trial GMs.
It looks like Jtank and Cheshyre are yours favourite. The difference between another four GMs (Powas, Ryan, TheCobra, Scorpio) that come after them are pretty small, less than 10 votes.
The least favourite GM title goes to Ryan, who 'won' with a huge advantage. As Ryan also had a fair amount of positive votes, it looks like most of you have a really strong opinion about him - you either 'love' him or 'hate' him.
Cheshyre situation's similar. By comparing those two graphs, we could say that, in general, Jtank is 'the best' GM, as he got a lot of positive votes and the least amount of negative ones.

Additional comments
Special thanks go to people, who write something in open questions. Some of those ideas for events are pretty good, we'll make sure to use them.

As for your comments, it is impossible to address all of them but be sure that we read every single one. That said, you can find some of them below, especially those that included some misconceptions.

Originally Posted by suggestion #1
I understand that at one point there was an event related to zombies with physical in-game changes. I currently have no ideas however seeing something interesting like this, rather than the repetitive and rather uninteresting knockout tourneys and forum events that interest few people. I believe that due to this many players are here for the forum rather than the game. If interesting events were to happen many more people would be much more interested in playing and sticking with the game. I understand Gm's are working for free however maybe a tc payment to work a bit harder with coders and creative people would be a very nice change.

We wanted to use the formentioned zombie system for hallowen month but due to some technical issues it was impossible. What's more, we don't have a direct access to said system, however, you can be sure that it will comeback someday, for one of our events.

Originally Posted by suggestion #2
I would like to see tournaments that have different belt restrictions so like white belt to black belt, 2nd dan to 5th dan, 6th dan to 9th dan and 10th dan to god belt(or whatever).

We tried to implement that kind of system for autotourneys but there are some serious issues with it and it needs to be reworked.
As for GMTourneys, we don't host belt restricted tourneys and we don't plan to change that.

Originally Posted by opinion #1
I'd definitely like to see some old GMs like LD (Liquidoom) and Samopal rehired, Leb3ast and NotShadow are pretty good but if somebody came back from 2012 or 2011, they would have no idea who these GMS are. Who and who you don't hire is not for me to say but i'd definitely like to see more older and influential members become staff

Fortunately (or unfortunately, depends on your point of view), we do not hire people based on their join date, it is not important. 'Older' players tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable but there is nothing you can't learn given you have your head in right place and you are eager enough. Quality of your application and skills that you have determine if you'll get a chance or not. That said, if you take a look at the current team, you'll notice that we have more of 'older' players in there than 'young wolves' like leb or wizard. If you are from 2011/2012 era, I can understand your confusion, the only GMs that still remain in the team from that time are Ryan (Stellar) and me (Powas). People come and go, some resign themselves, some go inactive and get removed. Nothing can be done about that.

Originally Posted by opinion #2
I don't understand why GM's give out Useless Post warnings / infractions so easily. I feel like it should be a little harder to get one of those.

It looks like you are a bit confused. Gamemasters don't give out any post infractions or warnings, that's Supermoderators' (or Market Squad members, if you break market rules) job. If anything, you'll sometimes get a profile warning from a GM, however those are in-game related (f.ex. you can get a profile warning for multiclienting in an official server).
If you receive a lot of warnings and infractions for useless posts, I would advise you to read rules of the board in which you are posting carefully.

Originally Posted by opinion #3
You have all resources to do cool entertaiment. You have 12 (!!!) people, GM art team, why can't you just work together and do your best. I mean if everyone throw 1 idea per month, you'll have 12 events in 30 days. I know you may say you're busy with police stuff, but it's pretty covered by smods and squids. Yeah, I'm not saying you are not needed, I'm just saying putting all forces to it is useless, while you have other work to do.

Smods, Market squad members and Gamemasters are different groups, each with different responsibilities. We work together on some cases but, in general, we stick to our areas of expertise (check spoiler with first question in this thread, it'll give you basic information about what GMs are doing).
As for those '12 events' - we pretty much do that. Right now we have more than 10 event propositions ready to host (or mostly ready) - the point, however, is not to release all of them at once, but to do it gradually, so there is always something 'live'. We need to adjust number of events to number of players playing this game.

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We agree.


Feel free to comment those results and add your own interpetation of the data we acquired.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME



Last edited by Powas; Mar 1, 2015 at 05:00 PM.
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Originally Posted by Link View Post
Why is Cheshyre 2nd disliked gm, but like the most liked one? That Hurts my brain.

he's definitly the best btw

All the alts he has b& voted against him

banbanbanbanbanabananana

Originally Posted by Brenden98 View Post
Ah but i do and i have in the past yet i am still frequently warned for no reason other than the people are having a slow day not to mention even after those warnings i received some real assholish private messages from a forum mod, Btw (yes i googled this i can admit that) Ignorance of the law is an excuse, if you are not read your rights when being arrested you can have the charges dropped; i digress. simply what i am trying to state is that i've for one never met a GM in game (in exception for hotseats in which i genuinely never get in to) as well as any time i've spoken to any staff (as i stated some people have shit days and shit jobs) they only replied with malice and demeaning remarks. To end this discussion i understand that this is the internet and people are assholes to their death bed; however, i was responding to a poll in which seemed to be incredulously rigged or misrated (IMO)

Big words, but your argument is invalid for a few reasons:
1. Clan Mods have a job to do, if they let anyone with 25k start a clan there would be 200 clans and half of them would be 10 page threads that are inactive and have no organization. The current clan system is well organized because the Cmods and Clan council do a great job of regulating.

2. There is no reason whatsoever for a forum mod(Admin in this case i would presume) would pm you concerning useless posts or crappy clan threads. If anything it was a Clan mod and he probably told you not to start a clan if you don't know what you're doing. While this may sound "assholish" all he's really saying is that you are too inexperienced to start a clan, especially if you don't know how to set up a first post so that it looks presentable.

3. There are AT LEAST 2 GM's that are reachable at any time, whether it be on IRC or in game, if you go to the front page and look down at the bottom of the page I guarantee you will see at least 2 colored names(meaning they have a staff position, with the exception of legends).

In reality Brenden you are just inexperienced. The current community is very accessible and for the most part pretty friendly. Throughout this wall o' text I've been talking to you as if you were a beginner, because you are a beginner. Like you said, Ignorance is an excuse, and in this case, you are just ignorant to the fact that most of this survey was fairly accurate.
I've enjoyed these ones as well

I'm still wondering why Chesh got most favourite GM and 2nd disliked GM.

Honestly though, I don't like Chesh that much and he takes his job very serious.
Nice Ryan, got some people who don't like ya.
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you've had the previous signature since 2019, i wonder how long it'll take you to notice this
lol no one likes Ryan ;) he's such a douche

On the other hand, i really liked this survey. Now, just implement all the ideas
Originally Posted by iver View Post
Since I'm a new GM I don't have much to say but I can't just leave this without giving my opinion. :v

So, in the first place, if you have just a little suggestion to give, that tiny 10 cents, no matter how small you think it could be, please, call any of us to have a talk, send PMs or search us in the IRC. This is really really important. Don't wait another survey like that to say how do you feel about this.

Yeah that is bullshit. Go on IRC and tell them an idea and in response the GMs will try there hardest to defend how great of a job they are doing and how brilliant the current system is.

Pretty sure nothing will come of this survey.
@fist:
We've got certain events planned out already so it might take a while before those from users' propositions start to appear. And yes, user vs user/user vs GM as well.
If you expect some kind of dramatic change, you won't get it - there are some things we need to improve, sure, but you (as in, community in general) think we are doing quite a good job so revolutions are not needed.
March is dedicated to ending our live events and live projects (opener challenge, surgical toribash might go on hiatus), we'll bring you something new in April.
Discussion about in-game tourneys is in progress.

I'm almost sorry that the rest of community doesn't feel the way you do, fist, but it's something beyond my control.
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