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^We need money to have a currency,
to be able to trade our things to others' things we can't produce ourselves efficiently,
for a common known value for items so you can for example sell a house for a lot of money you are able to gradually spend on goods, instead of having to trade it to just a huge amount of someone's household items, food and such.
So that people will have competition so that everyone works harder in attempt to get more things to boost their social status (it's part of human nature to strive for this, communism just does not work) to have a better chance of getting as healthy mate as possible to reproduce with so that their children would be succesful in life and be able to repeat the process with less effort than you had to.

We need money for the society to work. It's not the money that causes problems, it's the people who want it so much that they end up doing anything for it.
Last edited by JireBank; Sep 22, 2011 at 10:42 PM.
Stop bumping useless threads.

Currency is a word invented by man, religeon is a word invented by man, creation is a skill invented by man.

If none of these things were conceived, we'd be walking around like morons, stuck in the stone age.

Currency is what people invented as a "fair trade" for objects. Only the kings workers mine all of the gold, or the US government officials print the bills.

None of these things are actualy needed in life, money is an object of no value.



So if life isn't worth living, why did we invent these things?
Originally Posted by Potenza View Post
Stop bumping useless threads.

You still chose to start discussing the matter, reopening the discussion further?

Currency is a word invented by man, religeon is a word invented by man, creation is a skill invented by man.

If none of these things were conceived, we'd be walking around like morons, stuck in the stone age.

Implying that without religion we'd still be stuck in the stone age, when actually dark ages were followed by religious causes; progress of science was slowed down. Here you say that currency is something that we had to conceive in order to develop, but further in your post you say how money isn't needed?

Currency is what people invented as a "fair trade" for objects. Only the kings workers mine all of the gold, or the US government officials print the bills.

Currency is simply a mean of making the society work; acquire more wealth by working harder, and by working harder the society is improved. Your example of 'workers mining all the gold' is exaggeration; Someone has to provide all the food and goods for the workers themselves, so they were the minority of providing means of creating currency.US government officials are another minority, another example of creating objects of which value is stable and thus trade works better than by just trading an item to an item or items.

None of these things are actualy needed in life, money is an object of no value.

If some weird thing prevented us from having a currency, life would go on, but people wouldn't change in their habits. Only thing that would happen would be an a economical depression due to that formerly directed currencies would now be vanished, resulting in a huge slowing down in getting shit done.

So if life isn't worth living, why did we invent these things?

What things? Money? It is a mean of marketing for those who follow their instincts of succeeding in their lives. We live most of our lives without wondering if life is worth living, because it is much easier not to think about it. Daily habits and rewards we get from working are generally the only reason we exist, that we are here today as beings who can think abstract things.

Didn't let me post without text outside the quote.
Last edited by JireBank; Sep 24, 2011 at 10:08 AM.
I find everything in life meaningful, both good and bad. I see the good as well... good. And I see the bad as trials for my faith. Money is unimportant to me, b/c i plan on becoming a missionary...

Vox Moderated Message:
Why not expand on this, as your post is it doesn't contribute anything to the discussion, offer something new.
Last edited by Vox; Sep 23, 2011 at 04:06 PM.
I'm not gonna lie life is worth it depending if the universe favors you, so far I feel quite neglected by the universe, but if you like trivial things such as ipods, games, and other minor technological advancements, yeah I guess life is worth it especially if you are quite interested in the future and how everything is gonna go down, Curiosity is a bitch.
Last edited by T0ribush; Sep 24, 2011 at 08:52 AM.
Originally Posted by T0ribush View Post
I'm not gonna lie life is worth it depending if the universe favors you, so far I feel quite neglected by the universe, but if you like trivial things such as ipods, games, and other minor technological advancements, yeah I guess life is worth it especially if you are quite interested in the future and how everything is gonna go down, Curiosity is a bitch.

"...so far I feel quite neglected by the universe..."
This sounds incredibly vein you understand, also I don't think the creations of man such as games are trivial, you don't understand the work and art that has gone into these devices, global communications networks seem important to me.
I think you need to come back down to earth, you've left the discussion and this planet in the process, metaphorically of course.

I believe life to a human is how you live, I measure a person by the qualities and accomplishments they have claim too, for instance you can be courageous by effort and will, that I credit someone for, but you can't be credited for being born as something.

I live for the credit I attribute to my self and others, as a member of a social species I also live for the interactions involved and the communications between us, if you believe these are worth living for as I do then life is worth it.
Well, try being at the wrong place at the wrong time all the time. It's like being kicked in the nuts by the universe.

Some people can't be at the wrong place at the wrong time because some how the universe just some how sets it up for them. I'm th complete opposite of those people, but hell I'm still here and seeing how long this shit drought is gonna last, hell it may go on for the whole duration of life, I don't know, so far the good is shadowed over by the bad luck Ive had my whole life.. got another 30-40 years to go, I'll see how those turn out.

Some people just have insane luck, I don't know whether it's their charisma or them just being born at the right time in the right place. All I know i'm not one of those people, I know a few and they literally do nothing for good shit to happen to them, but meh.

I respect game developers and the people making new devices, but actually I can only afford a fraction of them and so that is why I think they are trivial, you may not think so because maybe you can afford them? I don't know, but I have no use for them, and I see the world differently because the shit it through in my face for the past 16 years of my 19 year life.


If you think life is worth it, good on yeah, keep living it to the fullest.
Also I never left earth, i'm still here being kicked in the sack.
Last edited by T0ribush; Sep 24, 2011 at 08:37 PM.
Is life worth what? This is all there is. If you don't like it, you can leave and not come back. There's nothing for it to be worth.
Originally Posted by isaac View Post
Is life worth what? This is all there is. If you don't like it, you can leave and not come back. There's nothing for it to be worth.

You are basically telling me to suicide just because I thought there is no value to life?
Basically, I still don't, besides all the other reasons why I should.
Originally Posted by Tinyballs View Post
You are basically telling me to suicide just because I thought there is no value to life?
Basically, I still don't, besides all the other reasons why I should.

suicide is a bad option.
It's a shame to waste something litteraly wonderful thing, to something that absorbs life or think of thoughts that suffer your soul.