I think what she does is her choice, and it's better to have abortion clinics and such to do it properly for her so she doesn't try it herself and hurt herself. It's her choice, I'd hate to be forced into a huge commitment like a child when I'm not ready, it'd fuck a lot of shit up in their lives IMO.
Originally Posted by sireal
I think what she does is her choice, and it's better to have abortion clinics and such to do it properly for her so she doesn't try it herself and hurt herself. It's her choice, I'd hate to be forced into a huge commitment like a child when I'm not ready, it'd fuck a lot of shit up in their lives IMO.
Originally Posted by RayA75
How can you justify that?
In my mind, objective functions such as life much outweigh the subjective goals that any one person has, such as happiness or convenience.
I'd like to emphasize this.
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Say your working a fulltime job, already have 2 kids and your husband's fucked off. You're completely full blown the whole time, with almost no time to relax. You're not getting paid enough for the work you're doing and you can barely afford food for your family. You go out on your off day and have some fun, ends up being a one night stand. Except you forgot to use protection and you're pregnant now.
What's better, having a child that will not be able to eat enough food, and can't be taken care of most of the time, or having an abortion to momentarily fix your mistake.
If you know you can't have a proper environment for a child to live in - food to eat, clothes, taken care of, then I think you should be able to choose whether you have this child or not.
What's better, having a child that will not be able to eat enough food, and can't be taken care of most of the time, or having an abortion to momentarily fix your mistake.
If you know you can't have a proper environment for a child to live in - food to eat, clothes, taken care of, then I think you should be able to choose whether you have this child or not.
I see what you mean and sympathize with anyone in such a situation.
Though, abortion still is not an ethical "fix" to such situations. The means does not justify the ends. This is to say the the means of abortion, as unethical as I have demonstrated, do not justify the end of happiness. This is still the argument in question, and I believe the logic itself proves it.
Again, staying away from that abortion is murder argument, does an act that infringes on the right to become ( and subsequently life) justify an end that satisfies that right to happiness?
My answer is no because becoming (and subsequently life) is the foundation upon which happiness is sought. We cannot have happiness without life, and we cannot have life without first becoming.
Though, abortion still is not an ethical "fix" to such situations. The means does not justify the ends. This is to say the the means of abortion, as unethical as I have demonstrated, do not justify the end of happiness. This is still the argument in question, and I believe the logic itself proves it.
Again, staying away from that abortion is murder argument, does an act that infringes on the right to become ( and subsequently life) justify an end that satisfies that right to happiness?
My answer is no because becoming (and subsequently life) is the foundation upon which happiness is sought. We cannot have happiness without life, and we cannot have life without first becoming.
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I think it is mate. It's their choice to have a child or not, that's a fact. The rights of the living outweigh the rights of the possibly could be living. It COULD live, but it's not. It's only a possibility, could be stillborn, could be anything.
What about rape victims? What do you do in that situation?
Abortion is ethical in my view.
What about rape victims? What do you do in that situation?
Abortion is ethical in my view.
