I have thoughts on suicide.

I agree that it is some sort of "escape" from life ... but ... eh, let me tell you my story. I won't talk about my age since its a bit depressing, a young person ruining theyre life before even tasting it.
Well my parents have went in the opposite direction when I was a child, the only thing why they talk to eachother is me, the "chain" that unites them.
My parents are normal, no addictions no over-uses.
My dad is treating me like shit, sometimes hits me, but only sometimes. He has a gf, they're together for 2 years now, and she share's hattred to me just as my father. My only hope, my uncle. Diesnt give a single Fuck since he got a good job and new car. My mother is the only person that can help, oh and she has a bf, he is cool. I know suicide is like a flood, destroys everyone/everything and leaves people that (maybe) cared with nothing. My gf does know about my plans and does what she can, I really do love her. I'm really afraid of death, as I come closer to suicide I feel there is something left to do, something that needs to be done before leaving. That is the fuel that makes me continue and yet, It won't let long. School, well I'm neutral, no one hates me ... And many people do actually like me. Grades are harder topic though, I'm really lazy, I'm smart ... but I lost the power to study, not wasting my time tho, I'm reading books daily, please I need help, I use the internet since there Is noone to talk with.

The fact that all you people have found toribash (and most of you actually have pretty impressive belts) will actually be really good for. I think we all know that obsessing over anything (including toribash) can be bad since it starts taking time from other things and your outside life can begin to deteriorate as a result. This, I would argue, is not a problem for suicidal people, if they are thinking and playing toribash they can focus on that and be addicted to that rather than constantly pondering their suffering. Video games are distracting, often dangerously so, and they therefore literally take your attention, it is escapism. I would advise anyone who feels suicidal to find something immersive to do which will take their mind out of their current life; reading, drawing, playing video games and any other form of escapism.

I guess I just wanted to at least make a half boiled attempt at giving advice since their are so many people who are suffering posting here. I don't know if this advise will help or if it is even correct but I really hope it does.

Thank you for reading.

I do agree, but I read... And it doesn't help as much as you need it.

It's a personal choice. I'm not one to say anything about someones life after they decided to take it since it was their life and not mine even if it effects me it's not my problem and It's selfish to make it my problem

But what about their problems? What if they need/want people to help them. The "It's your life you can do what you want" argument is a bit weak when it comes to the fact that the whole point of society is that we agree to do what other people want us to do and don't do what they don't want us to do. In return other people do the same and don't do things which we don't want them to. obviously there is a line between people cooperating and a totalitarian state with no freedom but society, in my opinion, is about helping other people or at least getting on with them and in return feeling a bit safer because everyone around you is expected not to kill you or steal from you or damage anything you own etc. What I think I am trying to say (although at this point I am as confused as you are) is that humans work well together because if there is a problem they can consult each other about it. If you make a decision with the advice of 3 other people the decision you make might be 4 times as well thought through. I guess you could say that the decision could also be 4 times as stupid if the advise is bad but there are a things which indicate that if enough people take part and guess something (the most reliable is guessing the number of sweets in a jar) and then take an average of all the answers then the answer will be unnervingly accurate. If there are over extreme people on both sides then their guesses will cancel each other out. I hope this makes sense. It is sort of relevant since the "do whatever you want" argument has been mentioned so much.

Thank you for reading.

I have to agree with Protonitron's argument, at least in the sense the people need to rely on each other. Actually, let me rephrase that, absolutely everyone, whether mascots, friends, everyone naturally needs to rely on something/someone.
What happens is that there are choices to make, and relying on someone is not always an option. "Do whatever you want" argument is completely valid, not to say it's right. But there are other answers, just like actual suicide. There are plenty of options, from suiciding itself to enduring the situation. You get what I try to say, Mr Fastmove?

I also agree that people may not want to endure the situation any longer, and I accept it. But I think younger people (like -30's) should always look for another solution. It's obviously not nice, or it could be hell, but I'm sure there could be a solution. In fact, I think that younger people should not even think about escaping through suiciding. I mean, it might just be the answer you were looking for. It might just be the answer that really answers your troubles. But that doesn't make it the right answer.

Ok, my thoughts are just prolonging, so for now I'll leave this post like this. This is a deep serious topic, so I'll make another post in a while sharing my thoughts again. But for now, what do you guys think about reasons to suicide? What do you think about bullying?

If i try to help someone and they refuse my help, I'm not going to push it on someone like they need it, You put need and want together like they are the same, I see them as very different and when i want help i'll ask for it, if someones too stubborn to not accept help or want it, Than I'm sorry for moving on, I know when people try to push shit on me it doesn't help it makes me more aggravated... And why would i want to Aggravate someone more than they are? try to help, get shut down, move on. It is their life and they can do what they want, people try to blame bullies blame bad parents at every turn, as a person who has had friends commit suicide before i can say its not always that, Sometimes people just don't want to live anymore, and in a way i don't really blame them and i will not judge them because if they want to be dead thats a personally choice, People get born into this world without a choice so why can't some people die without an Explanation other than "i didn't want to live anymore" <-- That right there makes sense to me 100% Its a glorified undebatable statement It's straight out.

But that's just my opinion.

Life throws shit at everyone. Some get more than others, but it's ultimately up to you how you deal with it, if you deal with it at all.

I accept you point that want and need are different. I also want to say that I never meant that I would be insistent behond someone's wishes. Just that people should not just let other people make important decisions without knowing what they are doing. I don't judge suicide victims I just advise against suicide because of utilitarian reasons. Of someone knew what they were giving up by commuting suicide then I would try to stop them. As long as people are fully and correctly informed on a personal decision they are making then i have no problem (although I might think they made the wrong choice).

I think we are in agreement about most of this Nickone?
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I can't write well today .

I hope you get the message.

I think it's pretty safe to say that "I don't want to live anymore" statement makes sense. I don't think is good to force anyone to do something, specially if they're aware of what they're doing. After all, nobody knows what's really in the other side, so what the heck.
My original point is that people should look for more answers, instead of finishing it off so it finally ends (redundant? doesn't matter, you get my point). Whether that someone decides that the answer is suicide or not is "not my problem and it's selfish to make it my problem", but they should always look at a different approach.