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Originally Posted by Gynx View Post
I think everyone is either a) a little too nostalgic of that time or b) as not even there but drawing off what they heard from those in category a. It really wasn't all it was cracked up to be and my impression of it was that it was too controversial a board to keep around to keep everyone happy at the same time. Similar to the arguments that are brought up here, people are forgetting there were about as many people complaining about wibbles as people enjoying it back then. I don't think there'll be any change in that. I've always personally preferred the way things currently are (wibbles behind toriprime essentially) as it's fairer that those who don't want to get dragged into wibbles drama as it happens (and it will happen). I've always thought wibbles should be an opt-in deal and the way Toriprime functions is exactly that. I'm all for recreating the board or bringing the old boards back into TP/VIP, but not really too keen to have it become a standard board again.

Interesting how you tried spinning paying for wibbles as 'fairer' for the users.

I hope that's not your official decision. If so, you shouldn't enforce your minority view on the majority, man. You also shouldn't just discount the votes of everybody who voted for wibbles to come back because they're only just being 'ignorant' and 'nostalgic'.
Last edited by Ele; Sep 18, 2016 at 01:19 PM.
Originally Posted by Ele View Post
Interesting how you tried spinning paying for wibbles as 'fairer' for the users.

I hope that's not your official decision. If so, you shouldn't enforce your minority view on the majority, man. You also shouldn't just discount the votes of everybody who voted for wibbles to come back because they're only just being 'ignorant' and 'nostalgic'.

Just voicing my opinion, not sure why that has raised your hackles.

Regarding what is fairest for users, if you had read my post you'd have seen that what I believe is fairest is making wibbles opt-in and not forum default. TP/VIP just has the framework for that which I think best suits wibbles, whether or not it's paid for, won in an event, or bought by some other alternative to real world currency (if that's open to happen - not sure if it is). Also, just because I believe your poll results and a lot of this discussion is based upon nostalgia and people wanting what they never had doesn't mean I'm discrediting the results. I just think it's important to consider why people vote and why they don't.
collect snots from the nose
But...where am I going to spam my dankest of memes for everyone to see?
Seriously though, the majority of official clans have a wibbles thread or something similiar, where they shitpost as much as their hearts desire. I don't see how the logic of "We had to remove Wibbles because the cancerous behaviour started spreading to other boards" is still applicable, since a lot of people shitpost in their own clan boards without any regulation(don't take that away I'll hang myself). You may as well just make one giant dump where everyone shitposts instead.
Originally Posted by Ele View Post
'Opt-in'. Opt-in for $10 you mean. That's a laugh. But OK. So long as that's just your opinion.

Originally Posted by Gynx View Post
Regarding what is fairest for users, if you had read my post you'd have seen that what I believe is fairest is making wibbles opt-in and not forum default. TP/VIP just has the framework for that which I think best suits wibbles, whether or not it's paid for, won in an event, or bought by some other alternative to real world currency (if that's open to happen - not sure if it is).

Like I said, the opt-in is what is fairer, no matter how you do it. Toriprime is the only board in the community that users can currently opt-in to, there's no other parallel to draw currently.

The whole Buzzfeed style reply over standard reading comprehension is starting to get old. Wouldn't surprise me if people don't want to voice their opinions that stand against yours if all you're going to do is extrapolate them into something else entirely.
collect snots from the nose
Originally Posted by Gynx View Post
Like I said, the opt-in is what is fairer, no matter how you do it. Toriprime is the only board in the community that users can currently opt-in to, there's no other parallel to draw currently.

You said people should pay to have access with TC, they should 'win it' in an event, or they should pay for it by some other means. Because that's somehow fairer... Yeah.

You know, every board is already opt-in. No one is forcing precious little petals to post or read threads there or anywhere else. It's all voluntary.

I don't often use the market. I voluntarily chose to 'opt' out of the market by minimising that forum section on the index. That may be 'opt-out', but nobody is getting hurt by having to click a single minimise button. It's also fairer too, since you're not restricting access to everyone in some misguided attempt at ... 'something'. You could even, by default set it so it's already minimised, and then have people 'opt-in' in by maximising it (if you're 'oh so concerned' about 'fairness' and set on having an opt-in system).

If you want actually wanted to be fair, you wouldn't try to make us pay to have it, or to make us win some ridiculous event. If some people are triggered by the mere existance of a board nobody is forcing them to look at (or even make visible (minimize it)), well then that's just ridiculous, and I think those safe-spacers should be safely ignored. They shouldn't have their very minority opinion parroted and championed by the community manager. Having the community steered in that sort of direction into the future is a sure-fire way to turn this place to shit.

Is it really even about fairness though? I doubt it is, because that's just such a loopy and bollocks reason.
Last edited by Ele; Sep 19, 2016 at 03:45 AM.
If that opt in method isnt enough

-PM/query an smod+ for access could well work
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Originally Posted by SmallBowl View Post
PM/query an smod+ for access could well work

Oh man that sounds like it would result in some pretty unhappy smods
oh yeah
Originally Posted by Gynx View Post
I've always thought wibbles should be an opt-in deal and the way Toriprime functions is exactly that.

Can you explain what this point of this is?

If you want to avoid theoretical wibble drama why don't you theoretically not read or post on the board? It seems that staff are hyper sensitive to this kind of thing, previously some argued that threads/posts they don't like should be deleted immediately. This feels like the same kind of suggestion. Is there anything stopping you from not visiting a sub you won't want to visit? I know I sure as heck don't visit a lot of subs, that is my way of "opting out".

TP/VIP is not opt in it is pay walled, so it's a terrible analogy in the first place. Are you suggesting something like small said?

This seems to me to be just another idea for the sake of giving staff work to do...
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