Originally Posted by keggy

opinion.

truth

legal equality =/= societal equality. are you dumb?

Societal equality cannot be achieved through any sort of movement. Antagonizing people who hate you doesn't make them hate you less.

supremacy in what areas?

reproductive rights, divorce courts, job quotas

also opinion. any sources on this, hotshot?

Sonia Verstappen (Old school Feminist activist):
"The problem is that the Feminist fight in France and Internationally has been taken over by American lesbians who don't exactly like men. So the Feminist cause has become a war against men. They're not after equality, they want to destroy the macho man. They want to destroy men, quite simply. I won't let my behavior be dictated by crazy, hysterical women for whom all forms of sexual intercourse even within marriage is rape. I won't have that."

question for you all: do you sincerely believe that women are not oppressed in western society?

Feminism is not the solution. Feminism is cancer.
Definition of Egalitarianism:

Definition of EGALITARIANISM
1
: a belief in human equality especially with respect to social, political, and economic affairs
2
: a social philosophy advocating the removal of inequalities among people

in that case maybe you could do some basic googling on topics such as the wage gap

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin...qual-pay-myth/

Building your entire ideology on myths is pretty juvenile.
Funnily enough it was debunked by the AAUW themselves

, and rape statistics by gender

the definition of rape until recently involved penetration, women can't exactly penetrate

. did you know that around 30% of males would rape if they knew they could get away with it?

Flawed survey given to college students under false pretenses? They literally said "If you could have sex with any woman you wanted with no consequences, would you?" Using crap like this as evidence really devalues your argument. I'm all for equality, but this shit isn't equality, it's retardation that shoves the actual problems to the bottom of the stack.

should i resurface this viral video that shows the harassment women are put through just by walking on the street?

There's one a guy did too, similar outcome. And that one dude with the Lambo. Want a link to those?

why is it that men can have many partners and appear successful or "cool", while a woman behaving likewise would be branded a slut?

Jezebel? As a source? I realize you're blinkered, but c'mon.
Equally retarded, blinkered source: http://goodmenproject.com/featured-c...ut-shamed-man/

Once you have a serious argument and are through flinging trash, feel free to put something up that can actually be discussed.

did you know that transgendered people are banned from serving in the military?

I'm banned from serving in the military too. Most people who have conditions which can make them a liability in the field(hormone therapy, which can absolutely ruin a trans-person's mental state if it is not administered regularly, which is difficult in combat is enough of an excuse for that.) Gender Dysphoria isn't a choice, it's a medical condition that they are treated for with hormone therapy.

did you also know that over half of the women in the workplace are discriminated against and denied promotions/raises?

See: earlier forbes link.

feminism exists to counter issues like this. it is a productive and rational movement that has attracted some not-so-rational, toxic people (see: Big Red or Anita Sarkeesian).

That form of Feminism is long dead. The things you listed are either A. myths, or B. non-issues.

and for those that believe modern feminists are only the vocal minority, couldn't you say the same thing about gamers and forum users? maybe i'm from a pretty liberal town, but in my experience, anyone who believes in equality will call themselves a "feminist" because thats the whole point of feminism: gender equality.

It is not.

Full Definition of FEMINISM
: organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests

i see a whole lot of discussion but not a lot of sources. those who say that feminism is nothing but "whiny bitches" (bitch being a derogatory slur towards women btw, which is a prime example of casual sexism)

lol

should probably back that up with some examples of how the majority is like that. hint: it isn't. the world is not so black and white.

Did I not mention the whole "There is no true scotsman" thing? You're literally using that.

Originally Posted by RedPanda

Tell me guys, would you rather hire a male or a female for a job that might require heavy lifting? because I'd choose the male any day, this isn't sexist it's the fact that male bodies are built stronger (some aren't I know)
I'd also like to point out that if I was to get a job in nail art or a female shoe shop I'd be mocked by not just males but mostly females.
This is the same point I was trying to make, both sexes are unequal and each have their good point and bad points.
However I rarely see masculism compared to that of feminism.

Also proto, anabolic steroids are made mostly from testosterone.

http://www.livescience.com/3349-steroids-work.html

Originally Posted by RedPanda

Tell me guys, would you rather hire a male or a female for a job that might require heavy lifting? because I'd choose the male any day, this isn't sexist it's the fact that male bodies are built stronger (some aren't I know)
I'd also like to point out that if I was to get a job in nail art or a female shoe shop I'd be mocked by not just males but mostly females.
This is the same point I was trying to make, both sexes are unequal and each have their good point and bad points.
However I rarely see masculism compared to that of feminism.

Also proto, anabolic steroids are made mostly from testosterone.

http://www.livescience.com/3349-steroids-work.html

Originally Posted by Hyde

I was trying to resist posting here. I can't.