Originally Posted by suomynona
But for the public servers, a general ban is more appropriate. The same logic that applies to public servers also applies, in general, to the forums. One can argue that clan boards and private clan boards are an exception, but considering the role that clans play in the community, I would personally be hesitant to support a fundamentally racist clan into becoming official. As such, I don't see much reason to actually exclude the clan boards from this same evaluation.
I'll concede that in official ingame servers, the word shouldn't be thrown around freely (even if it's not intended to cause offense). I don't agree with your reasoning for disallowing it in clan boards though. No-one's talking about allowing racist people to be racist. If you've actually got a racist clan, then I can imagine it'd be shut down (and rightfully so) very quickly. Allowing people to use it (in a non-racist way) in private servers ingame, but then disallowing it for use in a private forum space (clans, Toriprime) seems inconsistent and arbitrary.
Originally Posted by Ele
I'll concede that in official ingame servers, the word shouldn't be thrown around freely (even if it's not intended to cause offense). I don't agree with your reasoning for disallowing it in clan boards though. No-one's talking about allowing racist people to be racist. If you've actually got a racist clan, then I can imagine it'd be shut down (and rightfully so) very quickly. Allowing people to use it (in a non-racist way) in private servers ingame, but then disallowing it for use in a private forum space (clans, Toriprime) seems inconsistent and arbitrary.
The reason for disallowing it in private clan boards and not in private servers is due to the fact that a private clan board is not a transitory space. Ordinary users cannot arbitrarily receive information about what has previously been said in a server, but what is posted in a clan board is generally intended to be posted indefinitely.
Thus, the potential for a single instance of a word in a private server to cause future damage is comparatively quite limited.
Squad Squad Squad lead?
The standardization of Toribash Squad roles may have gone too far!
The standardization of Toribash Squad roles may have gone too far!
I would've thought that the argument for allowing it in private servers is that "Hey, this is our space, we're not being offensive, like it or leave it". This would then apply to clans - nobody's forcing anyone to read threads in clans that they aren't even apart of.
In the end, it boils down to a value judgment. Should be people be free to be non-offensive to each other (yet still using 'nigger') in their private spaces, or should someone's right to be offended trump that? Obviously we all have different opinions on this.
In the end, it boils down to a value judgment. Should be people be free to be non-offensive to each other (yet still using 'nigger') in their private spaces, or should someone's right to be offended trump that? Obviously we all have different opinions on this.
