Original Post
Rule Change in Private/Public Rooms
Hi,
We’ve recently updated the rules regarding private space and public space. I’m writing this semi-brief note to send the message along. Below will be a few points on why we made the change, what was actually changed, and finally, how it affects everyone going forward. You can find the rules in the FAQ.
Why
With the implementation of in-game reports, private v. public rooms were always a hot topic when looking at the reports. Tori-Agents look through game chat logs and replays to come to their verdict(s). “Was this a private room?” “What can we do about it?” were frequently asked questions among the team. The staff team discussed this and came to the conclusion to amend the rules. We felt that, through means of technicalities, “allowing” members to break rules because they’re in their own custom server, isn’t right. We’re not trying to shaft people from having fun, rather, keeping everything fun and friendly for everyone. If something is reported, in-game reports, or our traditional methods of sending a screenshot in, we deal with it.
What
For everyone, these guidelines should be common sense behavior, typical to everyday interactions with real people. Here’s the new rules paired by the old rules. Please take the time to read.
Going Forward
This isn’t to get rid of private rooms, you’re free to have your fun. Just be mindful of the others joining in. We strive to keep all platforms of Toribash a fun and friendly environment to want to be in. If you see behavior that clearly breaks the rules, report it. After that, ignore them using the ignore feature ingame. If you have feedback, you’re free to post, we’d love to hear it with the intentions of trying to improve.
We’ve recently updated the rules regarding private space and public space. I’m writing this semi-brief note to send the message along. Below will be a few points on why we made the change, what was actually changed, and finally, how it affects everyone going forward. You can find the rules in the FAQ.
Why
With the implementation of in-game reports, private v. public rooms were always a hot topic when looking at the reports. Tori-Agents look through game chat logs and replays to come to their verdict(s). “Was this a private room?” “What can we do about it?” were frequently asked questions among the team. The staff team discussed this and came to the conclusion to amend the rules. We felt that, through means of technicalities, “allowing” members to break rules because they’re in their own custom server, isn’t right. We’re not trying to shaft people from having fun, rather, keeping everything fun and friendly for everyone. If something is reported, in-game reports, or our traditional methods of sending a screenshot in, we deal with it.
What
For everyone, these guidelines should be common sense behavior, typical to everyday interactions with real people. Here’s the new rules paired by the old rules. Please take the time to read.
Originally Posted by New
- Harassment
Harassing (by insulting, name-calling, slurs, bandwagoning, flaming, trolling, and so on) other members of the game for any reason is not allowed. We wish to maintain a friendly environment, and any flaming or harassment may result in a ban. This includes any homophobic or racial slurs in any public space in the community
"Public space" is defined as:
Game - Any room that is not protected by a password.
Forum - The entire forum with the exception of Wibbles and clan PRIVATE boards.
If it's brought to moderator's attention and found that your language disrupts the integrity of the environment we're setting; warnings, infractions, or bans will take place. Try to solve issues yourself if you can. We can't possibly be there for every single instance. Asking to politely stop is a start.
Originally Posted by Old
Harassing (by insulting, name-calling, slurs, bandwagoning, flaming, trolling, and so on) other members of the game for any reason is not allowed. We wish to maintain a friendly environment, and any flaming or harassment may result in a ban. This includes any homophobic or racial slurs in any public space in the community - for more information read here.
And if you follow the link in the Old rules, this part, I'll put that in a spoiler
Addition
Going Forward
This isn’t to get rid of private rooms, you’re free to have your fun. Just be mindful of the others joining in. We strive to keep all platforms of Toribash a fun and friendly environment to want to be in. If you see behavior that clearly breaks the rules, report it. After that, ignore them using the ignore feature ingame. If you have feedback, you’re free to post, we’d love to hear it with the intentions of trying to improve.
Last edited by ed; Jan 21, 2020 at 08:36 AM.
Reason: clarity
بسم الله الرحمان الرحيم
Originally Posted by Divine
As a note; These rules have been in effect for a good while now, even if this post was only made just recently. So in a sense nothing has really changed.
Originally Posted by skizz
no
tell us before you ban someone for a rule that hasn't been announced i think that's the part that pisses me off the most
ed already apologized for announcing it late so just own up for it buddy
Originally Posted by Divine
What exactly would you like me to own up to? I’m a little confused.
I think I can clear this up.
OK, so imagine that you're skipping along the street one day and a policeman throws you in jail for skipping. New law, nobody's allowed to skip;
"But I didn't know it was illegal to skip, nobody announced anything", you say nervously, noticing your new cell-mate Jerome, staring at you like he's hungry.
"Doesn't matter b r o, these rules have been in effect for a good while now - They were unspoken", the policeman scoffs.
"That's not fair", you retort, growing increasingly irate.
"I can't believe people are complaining", says the head cop, smiling smugly.
Thank-you for reading my story. The morale is 'Don't punish people for shit that ain't announced'.
In fact, ya'll should reverse any infraction/ban points you gave to people for this offense during the time it wasn't announced. It's only right.
Last edited by Ele; Jan 22, 2020 at 05:30 AM.
Reason: clarified
Originally Posted by Ele
I think I can clear this up.
OK, so imagine that you're skipping along the street one day and a policeman throws you in jail for skipping. New law, nobody's allowed to skip;
"But I didn't know it was illegal to skip, nobody announced anything", you say nervously, noticing your new cell-mate Jerome, staring at you like he's hungry.
"Doesn't matter b r o, these rules have been in effect for a good while now - They were unspoken", the policeman scoffs.
"That's not fair", you retort, growing increasingly irate.
"I can't believe people are complaining", says the head cop, smiling smugly.
Thank-you for reading my story. The morale is 'Don't punish people for shit that isn't in the rules'.
In fact, ya'll should reverse any infraction/ban points you gave to people for this offense during the time it wasn't announced. It's only right.
I completely agree with all of this, but technically if I'm not mistaken Divine never said that the rules were unspoken, he said that they had been in effect for awhile now. I'm assuming this also means that they were in the rule book, sticky, or whatever, but I could be wrong.
Yeah, 2WC (not staff, I know) quasi-justified no announcement by saying they were unspoken, so that's why I included that 'defense' in the story.
And yeah, regardless of whether they're in the global rules in FAQ or not (glancing at it, looks like they were last updated 3 weeks ago), the fact nothing was announced while it came 'into effect', is wrong. It's not reasonable to expect people to check the global rules every week for changes to the rules - Rule changes ought to be accompanied with announcements.
And yeah, regardless of whether they're in the global rules in FAQ or not (glancing at it, looks like they were last updated 3 weeks ago), the fact nothing was announced while it came 'into effect', is wrong. It's not reasonable to expect people to check the global rules every week for changes to the rules - Rule changes ought to be accompanied with announcements.
Well a couple people have already said that they were banned via these rules before the rules were announced. The police analogy I'm not sure on though, they always say "ignorance isn't an excuse" in America. And we all know America has the best justice system in the world, right? Guys right? Guys? :<
