Originally Posted by Hours
dude stop trying to convince people that you're worthy of a certain position. you tried in vibe. that didn't go well, so don't do the same to us.
obviously we haven't gotten to that point where it actually hasn't gone well, but hey, it took a couple of shit posts in the vibe thread for it to go bad.
I was trying to defend myself in the vibe thread. I wasn't shitposting.
I'm also not to going to idly sit by while people judge me based on past mistakes.
Valterain1 was defeated by hermaphrodite on Oct 17, 2015.
Originally Posted by Hours
clearly things went to shitposting in one way or another.
How? I don't see any shitposts in the thread.
but alas
the vibe incident isn't that much to talk about
Valterain1 was defeated by hermaphrodite on Oct 17, 2015.
The fact is that this isn't just the vibe incident its happened throughout the years which many of us have seen first hand.
Not to be captain obvious, but honestly you're not helping yourself. You're not getting in here, so I'd suggest we leave it at that and you try your luck somewhere else.
I'd prefer if you refrained from posting here anymore since you're creating some bad vibes (no pun intended. ok maybe a little) in here.
Not to be captain obvious, but honestly you're not helping yourself. You're not getting in here, so I'd suggest we leave it at that and you try your luck somewhere else.
I'd prefer if you refrained from posting here anymore since you're creating some bad vibes (no pun intended. ok maybe a little) in here.
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I know you more than anyone in this clan. I know outside of the stupid stuff you've done, you're a decent guy. BUT, unfortunately, the bad stuff does outweigh the good
I really don't understand how it's a joke that you have a swastika arm band (assuming it was an armband) texture. You do realize that it's incredibly offensive to certain people. So, of course the staff isn't going to have any tolerance for that.
Really stupid of you. Can't really say it any way else.
You should really know better at this point that saying/doing anything that can be considered offensive about a certain person's race is a bad thing. I appreciate you admitting that you were an asshole for doing this, but the damage has already been done
Understandable.
If the OP is a joke, don't comment on it to make the poster look like an absolute dumbass. Keep said posts to yourself. I can't say anything about you making an effort, because I haven't seen much of your recent posts. But I'll take your word for it.
I've skimmed through your application from [Vibe], and you essentially posted (roughy) the same information. I'll admit, Kyure did come off as a bit of a dick, and should have took it more maturely, but you also didn't act mature about it either. I understand you're trying to clean up your past, but it's going to take a bit longer than a couple of months to show that you have become a better person. We don't know you're just acting like a better person to achieve a higher status (staff, clans, etc.) Same way goes for an actual job interview. Let's assume you go to prison for a crime. You serve your punishment, and you're let go, but shit, you need money to live off of. So you apply for a job, and you have a friend that has a job there as well. You fill out your application, you include your criminal history in there since it's part of the application (it's there in real life, this is not included just for this scenario). At the same time, some other guy applies for the same job, except he has no criminal history. Who do you think the employer is going to hire? The guy without the criminal history. Why? Because, as much as your friend begs, and pleads with the employer, saying how great you are, the employer (and other workers) is most likely not going to trust you due to your criminal record (depending on the charge, how minor/major it is, how recent, what you have done to improve, etc.) I'm not saying you're completely fucked out of the real world (Or here, because, it's a fucking video game forum. People with ban/infraction history have been staff before, and have been out of BoS, and came back as a better person and I wish the same happens to you) but it's something to consider. I know it's not the best analogy for this situation, but it does its job.
See: text above this quote I typed out. Understand that if we do accept you in, you will be VERY CLOSELY monitored.
I know you're a decent person outside of the shitty stuff you've done. But the other members might not like what you have done. I'm not changing my attitude towards you at all. But, unfortunately, the other members of [duck] have made up their minds about you, and they're not positive ones either. I appreciate you coming clean, and admitting your mistakes, and it is a good step for improvement. But you still have a bit to go from your past.
Originally Posted by Valterain1
before all of you give the final verdict, take your time to read the following:
I'm going to go in depth into all the things I have done in the past that have been deemed noteworthy, so you all know everything. I will start off with notable bans.
1. First major ban was me thinking it was okay to wear a swastika in game on my left bicep. Obviously, the staff didn't get the joke and I was banned.
I really don't understand how it's a joke that you have a swastika arm band (assuming it was an armband) texture. You do realize that it's incredibly offensive to certain people. So, of course the staff isn't going to have any tolerance for that.
2. Second major ban was a scam incident in which I told a player who was scamming to give me all of his items.
Really stupid of you. Can't really say it any way else.
3. Third Major ban was where I thought it necessary to say the n-word in a public server, and was banned properly for that. I shouldn't justify this, but context was there.
4. Fourth Major ban was also a racism incident, and yet again, I shouldn't justify this. I was being an outright asshole.
You should really know better at this point that saying/doing anything that can be considered offensive about a certain person's race is a bad thing. I appreciate you admitting that you were an asshole for doing this, but the damage has already been done
5. Last ban was a ban in which I request upon all my accounts in order to focus more on important life matters, and so I could finally take an actual break from the game to reconcile with friends in my life.
Understandable.
Now, I also have a handful of infractions under my belt, but the majority of them are for posting in threads where the OP was a complete joke. But I have made an effort to change my posting habits in order to not piss off anyone.
If the OP is a joke, don't comment on it to make the poster look like an absolute dumbass. Keep said posts to yourself. I can't say anything about you making an effort, because I haven't seen much of your recent posts. But I'll take your word for it.
Now, on to the Vibe incident. The Vibe incident's focus was Kyure, and his expressed negativity towards me. He expressed a opinion against me which was ill-said and he simply resorted to using petty insults against me while I was trying to converse with their leader in the IRC. This inevitably lead to a shitstorm.
I've skimmed through your application from [Vibe], and you essentially posted (roughy) the same information. I'll admit, Kyure did come off as a bit of a dick, and should have took it more maturely, but you also didn't act mature about it either. I understand you're trying to clean up your past, but it's going to take a bit longer than a couple of months to show that you have become a better person. We don't know you're just acting like a better person to achieve a higher status (staff, clans, etc.) Same way goes for an actual job interview. Let's assume you go to prison for a crime. You serve your punishment, and you're let go, but shit, you need money to live off of. So you apply for a job, and you have a friend that has a job there as well. You fill out your application, you include your criminal history in there since it's part of the application (it's there in real life, this is not included just for this scenario). At the same time, some other guy applies for the same job, except he has no criminal history. Who do you think the employer is going to hire? The guy without the criminal history. Why? Because, as much as your friend begs, and pleads with the employer, saying how great you are, the employer (and other workers) is most likely not going to trust you due to your criminal record (depending on the charge, how minor/major it is, how recent, what you have done to improve, etc.) I'm not saying you're completely fucked out of the real world (Or here, because, it's a fucking video game forum. People with ban/infraction history have been staff before, and have been out of BoS, and came back as a better person and I wish the same happens to you) but it's something to consider. I know it's not the best analogy for this situation, but it does its job.
Now, this is all that has happened in the past. Anyone who is saying that nobody has said positive about me is correct, and I do not believe that anyone in Duck would have any reason to do so. But I am asking you all to give me a chance to show you that I can behave accordingly. My past, and my behavior has made it hard for me to convince you. But I have intentions on projecting myself towards members in Duck in different ways than those beforehand. But, I know it is necessary to show the same sort of respect to other members of the community, and I am willing to cooperate.
Give me a chance, because I know that none of you (except for perhaps rfifan, who I have talked to on a handful of occasions and play Taekkyon with semi-regularly) know me as an actual person.
A kick button exists for a reason, and you could use it if I am a problem.
Consider this.
See: text above this quote I typed out. Understand that if we do accept you in, you will be VERY CLOSELY monitored.
I know you're a decent person outside of the shitty stuff you've done. But the other members might not like what you have done. I'm not changing my attitude towards you at all. But, unfortunately, the other members of [duck] have made up their minds about you, and they're not positive ones either. I appreciate you coming clean, and admitting your mistakes, and it is a good step for improvement. But you still have a bit to go from your past.
Last edited by Rfifan; Nov 28, 2015 at 07:31 AM.
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