yes, but with 0.999... the digits are repeating to infinity. as such, when you type 9.999... that also repeats into infinity.
0.999... - 9.999.... is 9 as there are the same, infinite number of 9's after the decimal place.
adding 3 to infinity does not make infinity larger. infinity is a non-finite number.
Originally Posted by slainveteranyes, but with 0.999... the digits are repeating to infinity. as such, when you type 9.999... that also repeats into infinity.
0.999... - 9.999.... is 9 as there are the same, infinite number of 9's after the decimal place.
adding 3 to infinity does not make infinity larger. infinity is a non-finite number.
Bleh. By the same logic, just with less beating about the bush to throw people off:
infinity + 3 = infinity
infinity + 1 = infinity
1 = 3
Infinity is bullshit
[16:56:54] <@slainvet|ill> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999...
[17:02:08] <@slainvet|ill> what is 0.3333... + 0.3333... + 0.3333... ?
[17:02:43] <Cevius[Lurk]> 0.999...?
[17:02:59] <@slainvet|ill> ok. what is 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 ?
[17:03:04] <Cevius[Lurk]> 1
[17:03:22] <@slainvet|ill> you just answered the same question with 2 different answers!
[17:03:25] <Cevius[Lurk]> no
[17:03:35] <Cevius[Lurk]> one system is the decimal system, the other is fractions
[17:03:48] <@slainvet|ill> does 1/3 = 0.3333... ?
[17:03:52] <Cevius[Lurk]> no
[17:03:54] <+CheZDa> no
[17:04:12] <@slainvet|ill> bare in mind that is 0.3333 with the 3's repeating to infinity
[17:04:13] <Cevius[Lurk]> there is only 3 parts of 1/3
[17:04:17] <Cevius[Lurk]> we know
[17:04:29] <Cevius[Lurk]> but 1/3 is an exact third
[17:04:34] <Tonjevic> 0.333 repeater =/= 1/3
[17:05:12] <@slainvet|ill> but you will find, that 0.999... = 1
[17:05:17] <Cevius[Lurk]> its merely a lot of threes
[17:05:21] <Tonjevic> no
[17:05:23] <Tonjevic> it's not
[17:05:25] <@slainvet|ill> yes
[17:05:29] <Tonjevic> not unless you round it up
[17:05:38] <@slainvet|ill> no rounding involved
[17:05:38] <Cevius[Lurk]> There is no rounding up here
[17:05:51] <Cevius[Lurk]> CHUCK NORRIS DOES NOT GET REMAINDERS
[17:05:54] <Tonjevic> 0.9999... =/= 1 either
[17:05:57] <@slainvet|ill> check this for proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999...
[17:06:01] <@slainvet|ill> 0.999... = 1
[17:06:35] <Cevius[Lurk]> ive already passed maths once
[17:06:39] <Cevius[Lurk]> i dont need to do so again
[17:06:51] <@slainvet|ill> ive done further maths.
[17:06:56] <@slainvet|ill> 0.999... = 1
[17:07:02] <@slainvet|ill> honest
[17:07:09] <Cevius[Lurk]>
[17:07:17] <Cevius[Lurk]> and this is where i stop caring
[17:07:21] <@slainvet|ill> lol
[17:07:22] <Tonjevic> well
[17:07:22] <Cevius[Lurk]> ......now!
[17:07:51] <Tonjevic> 1 - (1/infinity) = 0.9999
[17:08:09] <Tonjevic> if you are subtracting a nonzero from 1
[17:08:14] <Tonjevic> then the result cannot be 1
[17:09:02] <@slainvet|ill> yes, but 1/x as x tends to infinity, 1/x = 0. therefore, at infinity, 1 - 1/infinity = 1
[17:10:37] <@slainvet|ill> ok then... new method to show it...
[17:10:50] <@slainvet|ill> 10 x 0.999... = 9.999... yes?
[17:10:59] <Tonjevic> indeed
[17:11:20] <@slainvet|ill> ok, lets set a variable, c = 0.999...
[17:11:42] <@slainvet|ill> so, 10c = 9.999... correct?
[17:11:47] <Tonjevic> ya
[17:04:43] <Cevius[Lurk]> you only need three of them to make up 1 again
[17:04:54] <Tonjevic> therefore, 0.3333... * 3 = 0.9999...
[17:05:03] <@slainvet|ill> yes.
[17:05:04] <Cevius[Lurk]> with 0.333... it is not one third
[17:12:11] <@slainvet|ill> ok, 10c - c = 9.999... - 0.9999.... yes?
[17:12:39] <Tonjevic> :|
[17:12:41] <Tonjevic> noes!
[17:12:48] <Tonjevic> it can't be right!
[17:12:51] <@slainvet|ill> how is that wrong?
[17:12:53] * Tonjevic tears his own face off
[17:13:27] <@slainvet|ill> 0.999... = 1
[17:13:54] <@slainvet|ill> i love playing with people who have not been taught this principle :P
[17:15:49] <@slainvet|ill> hmm... breakfast time
[17:16:00] * slainvet|ill is now known as slainvet|fud
[17:16:30] <Tonjevic> infinity is not an absolute value, but an accumulation of magnitude that is directly correlate to the time that it has been created. By this, we find that infinity created a second ago is not equal to one created now, because thier values are incongruous; the prior one has been going for longer, and has accrued a greater value. Hence, one cannot apply infinity to traditional numerics or algebra, because they will never be equal. If this were true, then 0.999 =/= 1.
[17:16:55] * Tonjevic is grasping at straws
[17:17:03] <Tonjevic> and overturning traditional mathematics
[17:17:08] <Tonjevic> :P
[17:17:31] <Tonjevic> that said, infinity is a completely irrational number
[17:17:50] <Tonjevic> and proving anything surrounding it is pointless, because it doesn't exist.
[17:19:55] <@slainvet|fud> yes, but 0.999... = 1
[17:19:57] <@slainvet|fud> :P
[17:20:13] <@slainvet|fud> and i can prove it without infinity
[17:21:03] <Tonjevic> By my argument, infinity is always finite, just not measurable. It increases at an infinite speed. :P
[17:21:13] <@slainvet|fud> indeed
[17:22:12] <+CheZDa> seriously...
[17:22:23] <@slainvet|fud> ?
[17:22:26] <Tonjevic> ?
[17:22:36] <@slainvet|fud> CheZDa, what?
[17:23:28] <+CheZDa> just funny
[17:23:33] <@slainvet|fud> lol
[17:23:45] <Tonjevic> what's funny?
[17:23:50] <@slainvet|fud> its true tho, 0.999... = 1
[17:24:33] <+CheZDa> give me physical proof that it's 1 ;)
[17:24:52] <Tonjevic> I want you to line up 0.999... apples and tell me it's one apple
[17:24:54] <+CheZDa> math is stupid
[17:25:20] <@slainvet|fud> lol. you can slive the apple then Tonjevic...
[17:25:25] <@slainvet|fud> *slice
[17:25:31] <Tonjevic> actually
[17:25:45] <Tonjevic> I could give you 99% of an apple and call it 1
[17:25:54] <@slainvet|fud> lol
[17:26:44] <Tonjevic> I'm going to go play some evil genius
[17:26:47] <Tonjevic> be back later
[17:26:50] <@slainvet|fud> lol
[17:26:53] <@slainvet|fud> cya
[17:28:23] <+CheZDa> you just simply can't use math to explain math
[17:28:27] <+CheZDa> it's madness
[17:28:31] <@slainvet|fud> lol
[17:29:52] <Cevius[Lurk]> i want some UT04
[17:29:53] <Cevius[Lurk]> bbl
[17:30:02] <+CheZDa> people has gone too far with this