Originally Posted by
Kadan
Err... take a look at Stalin and Lenin for good examples of long-term benefits of socialism. Great leaders, failure of an economic policy.
Good leaders? I agree that Lenin had some leadership qualities but Stalin just contradicted socialism so much by doing about anything to make the USSR influent forgetting about the actual Russian people.
You say that empathy is required for an intelligent argument, and yet you refuse to see anything from my point of view, thereby negating that statement. Besides, my posts are based on objectivity and concrete, quantifiable concepts, unclouded by human emotion.
No, your point of view is that the ultimate benefit possible is having money and being happy. I understand that you think that African countries are keeping big nations away from achieving that goal but face it, without poor countries the primary sector of economy would dissapear and Europe, North-America and Japan would have to lose their status of developed countries to make up for it.
I tried my best to follow your logic there but to me, the ultimate benefit possible is a maximum of people being happy. I know that comes from human emotion but I also know that human emotion is always what drives a logic, wether it "coulds" it or not.
Also, a free market has nothing to do with me leaving the clan. You probably just used that term to twist the argument against me, despite using it incorrectly and completely out of context.
I was thinking you were refering to selling your account, my bad. Then what's the context of it? Is letting millions of people die any form of trade?
Whether I'm the disgusting scum of the Earth is your opinion, and I honestly don't give a damn.
It's not only my opinion,
Originally Posted by http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/human
4. sympathetic; humane: a warmly human understanding.
There, you weren't sympathetic to millions of people by saying they could just die, ergo you're inhumane. You probably think you're in control of your cold objectiveness but human nature will stop that feeling if you're confronted to mass murder or in this case, mass death promotion.
Also, in regards to the Marshall Plan, you can hardly relate Western Europe, which was and still is an economic powerhouse, to Africa, whose only reasonable export in terms of profit was slave labor. They're hardly providing goods for the rest of the world now, are they?
Africa exports oil, cotton, rice (if you consider Madagascar), metals and some spices.
Also, if you take a look at northern Africa, you'll find that their economic situation isn't as bad as it looks. It's certanely more wealthy than the Federal Republic of Germany at that time.
I'd also like to add that you most likely said it was ok to kill the family of several members of the community, e.g Chac.
EDIT:btw I think if we're gonna continue this debate it should be in the thread you posted in, not the one that talks about you being kicked