The latest proposals by Barack Obama will put healthcare in america around about where Australia was in 1973.

We also see that Texas is changing textbooks, as per this thread which rings similarities to censorships of history books many decades ago to exclude/lighten the blow of the mistreatment of Australian natives.

How's it feel, Europe/Canada/places that arent America?

American healthcare, you shouldve put this into wibbles.

About that Textbook changing thing, hasnt something similar been done over the last few years ? Fundemantalist Christians trying to get the evolutional theory out of school books and all.
For a week or so after i heard that Obama will run for president i really thought he could make a change, but it ended up as it always does. Same shit different asshole.

I've always been amazed that they haven't had any healthcare.

Now that it's passed, illegal mexicans can get free healthcare. They're also making a law that taxes each of our guns.

taxes on their guns, ghehe that sounds like the only good taxes ever invented.

The changing of textbooks just shows to me that any form of teachings of history in a factual way is allmost impossible. Historial facts are not to be trusted.

I pretty much feel thesame as Rutzor about Obama, about the healthcare i really wouldnt know what to think about it. Healthcare here means im paying 117 euro's a month and im covered for who knows what, but at the same time if i would be in need of something from the farmacy if it is under a certain ammount i still need to pay for it out of my own pocket. Sometimes not being sick feels like im being ripped of by myself.

If anyone has a quick/easy way of enlightening me on the america healthcare subject, if it is not to much trouble, not really feeling like searching the net for it.

I really don't see what part of ILLEGAL immigrants liberals don't understand. They are not Americans, and have no rights in America, and that's the truth.

:| look in to the things you say before you say them.

Squiziph: American healthcare in a nutshell. For the passed...well forever America has had a free market healthcare system in which it operates like any other buisness. The only way most Americans can afford healthcare is through insurance since the prices are ungodly. So we have insurance companies that people pay monthly premiums to who will then cover the brunt of the cost when healthcare is needed, much like you do, only instead of the government overseeing it all, it is an independent and profit driven (if not all out corrupt) corporation. This system is great for those who can afford it because they get premium care, but if you are one of the non-increadibly rich (the vast majority of Americans) your insurance will be full of stipulations that dictate what sort of treatment you can get, and where you can get it. If you can't afford insurance, your only real hope is to be very poor and qualify for government assistance, however this care is low quality and only available to the indigent. So the rest of us who cant afford insurance (like me ) are fucked and just pray to not get sick.

In our last election, one of the main reasons Obama won is because he was big on getting something done about healthcare, namely allowing for a government option so that everyone will be covered and nobody will have to go broke to stay alive and healthy. Since he won, he has been trying to get something done, several proposals have been drawn up, but each one has been up against very stern opposition from people more concerned with politics and profit than with doing what is right. Recently a very scant bill was passed, so there has been a minor victory, but honestly I dont know enough about it to comment on it.


Textbooks: Its sick, but everyone outside of the US should also know (probably already do) that out history books have always been shite, leaving out crucial facts and bending things in unfair ways. This is definitely the farthest it has been taken, and if it happens and I ever have kids I will give them history lessons at home. But yeah, nothing new really, just a bit worse than before.

Your wall of text mentions nothing remotely related to what we were talking about with illegal immigrants.


Great job wasting your time.

I was answering Squiziphs question...I hadn't considered starting in on you two's opinions, since I know it would go nowhere.

Too bad, you already started by stating that. Now get to talking.