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Occupy Wall Street
A recent movement in the U.S. (Occupy Wall Street) has asked it's citizens to start a revolution. The movement was started to find some way to stop corporate greed and social inequality. I wanted to hear some opinions on the way our economy (U.S.A.) is regulated, and do you feel that corporate greed and social inequality is really the problem? Do you think that the protestors actually understand the economic problems? Could they all be there because they have short-comings in their own life/careers and blame their government for not making them as rich as the 1% of Americans that make over 500,000 dollars a year? Is there actually a problem in our economy or is it our own fault for not doing as much as we can (person by person) as a society by taking more than each person needs because we feel we are entitled more? What can we do to change our system so that the social inequality is balanced, i.e. everyone has food in their bellies, and no man has a golden toilet and 4 Ferrari's.
EDIT: I have found a statistic that is very unsettling to me and it is that the 1% of rich americans have over 20% of the available funds of the country. It seems to me that America's financial problems are a huge problem to the world i.e. the consumption of natural resources made possible by this grossly rich country...or rich 1%+ is gonna take a toll and we as a world community need to find a solution...In my opinion.
EDIT: I have found a statistic that is very unsettling to me and it is that the 1% of rich americans have over 20% of the available funds of the country. It seems to me that America's financial problems are a huge problem to the world i.e. the consumption of natural resources made possible by this grossly rich country...or rich 1%+ is gonna take a toll and we as a world community need to find a solution...In my opinion.
Last edited by skywalkr; Oct 11, 2011 at 09:36 PM.
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Yes. If I was closer I'd join them in occupying Wall Street.
Your post is awkward. "Could they all be there because they have short-comings in their own life/careers..." part.
I'm 16, and even I can see that our government is messed up.
I can't even begin to explain to you whats exactly WRONG with it, because then, that's well, almost everything.
Honestly, I have no problem with someone making 6 figures a year.
The problem comes in when you use that money to scre- I mean, Shaft. other people.
You know, the Corruption?
For example. Our wise (insert sarcasm here) government decided, that instead of helping that big, fat national debt or help the 99% (that counts you and me unless either of us somehow strike oil), they decided to give bankers and corporate what-have-you's a big bonus.
Millions of millions in bonuses, and tax breaks.
That's so much revenue that went to the 1% instead of going to a place where its needed.
To put my mindset simply:
It's not fair for one man to use a golden toilet and for another man in the same building use a half-ass urinal that can't flush.
Your post is awkward. "Could they all be there because they have short-comings in their own life/careers..." part.
I'm 16, and even I can see that our government is messed up.
I can't even begin to explain to you whats exactly WRONG with it, because then, that's well, almost everything.
Honestly, I have no problem with someone making 6 figures a year.
The problem comes in when you use that money to scre- I mean, Shaft. other people.
You know, the Corruption?
For example. Our wise (insert sarcasm here) government decided, that instead of helping that big, fat national debt or help the 99% (that counts you and me unless either of us somehow strike oil), they decided to give bankers and corporate what-have-you's a big bonus.
Millions of millions in bonuses, and tax breaks.
That's so much revenue that went to the 1% instead of going to a place where its needed.
To put my mindset simply:
It's not fair for one man to use a golden toilet and for another man in the same building use a half-ass urinal that can't flush.
I'm coming back with a vengeance!
Originally Posted by Mirdesoux
Your post is awkward. "Could they all be there because they have short-comings in their own life/careers..." part.
Could they all be there because they have short-comings in their own life/careers and blame their government for not making them as rich as the 1% of Americans that make over 500,000 dollars a year?
The question above was provoked by some anti protestor "propaganda" that I read. Some of the media are saying that the lower-class doesn't understand economic problems and that they are just bucking the system because they do not understand our economic problems and want more handouts. I don't feel this way.
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Originally Posted by cocacobra
Guarenteed that half the people in this have been drug addicts sometime in their life or are just very unwealthy.
I for one am not a drug addict, and my fiance also has over 100,000 in a trust fund, also why would someone like our Vice President be backing this movement.
Originally Posted by cocacobra
Honestly this got me thinking about how people want to raise the PERCENTAGE of taxes on tgat 1% that you mentioned, but doing this is the complete opposite of why a tax is a percent of annual income.
Since the 80's governemt regulations on corporations have been disappearing/changing for the benefit of big business and wall street, and for some of the other larger corporations that have started and then collapsed have gotten billions/trillions of dollars for bailouts, when this money could be used for some health care and/or education reform.
Originally Posted by cocacobra
The "Corrupt Businesses" don't exist, because every business offers some sort of + to consumers, and the money they get is spent on capital (stuff needed to make product), paying for workers, and the rest is spent somehow but recycles back into the economy.
I believe that is called the trickle down effect and that is the only thing that has made our country hold on to this way of thought. What we have is free market capitalism for the working class in this country and corporate welfare for the major banks and corporations.
Originally Posted by cocacobra
Social equality? Your talking about rich to poor? Well if one man is better than another the better one should have a better job, because he's useful compared to the other and therefore does more/better work so gets paid more. Your saying its unequal for the other man to not have a golden toilet? Honestly if anyones struggling for food in america, its because they dont even realize how much help the community offers.
What makes that one man better than the other? The fact that he has learned more, or that he has worked harder, or because he's is more socially acceptable? I think that those might make him smarter stronger and "cooler" than the other man, but it could also be because the "better" man, hasn't had to live in such inhospitable conditions as the "dumb" guy, who was raised off of McDonalds on a lucky day and Ramen noodles from the time he was 2 until he was 18.
The American Dream is literally being stolen from millions of Americans right out from under their noses,
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