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Ancient Astronauts

So, what do you believe?


Also, if aliens came and helped us build some cool shit, does it even matter if we have already surpassed, or are soon to surpass such technology?
Does it matter if they aren't still here or won't come back?

What does this mean for modern day religion?
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If we were flying and having aerobattles, that would be sweet, but Then that would mean something or someone *cough*religion*cough*cough* wiped out all physical evidence of those civilizations flying.
I don't see how more technology would have any bad implications for any religion. If anything, the fact that "the gods left behind gifts for us" would actually probably help it. I suggest you stop making religion your scapegoat.

The ancient astronaut theories are interesting. It draws a lot of lines between many civilizations. I personally don't think these lines don't need to be drawn but it's still neat. All the evidence that these theorists gather up in support of the theory is pretty circumstantial as well.

I think I'm going to stick with Occam's Razor on this one and say that the simplest answer is probably the correct one; that these civilization's didn't need aliens to come about their (insert pyramids, Nazca lines, cave drawings etc here).
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Lets be honest with ourselves any alien that came down to earth would make our current nuclear missiles look like sponges in comparison to whatever weapons they have. So if they wanted to they could kill us instantly no problem no question asked death to everyone. Lets also remember that humans have only been on earth for roughly 20thousand years, imagine if we had been here for 1 million years like some aliens may have. The difference in technology would be like that of ants and us now.


One of the only thing that supports the ancient aliens nonsense is the fact that technology to heave ten ton rocks to make pyramids simply did not exist in that era. Unless the techology was simply lost over time somebody or something definitely helped humans do some things.

Hell for all we know we could be like chickens to them being raised for slaughter, also the jump from rock wielding apes to homo sapiens seems a bit too extreme for straight up unassisted evolution.
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Originally Posted by RayA75 View Post
I don't see how more technology would have any bad implications for any religion. If anything, the fact that "the gods left behind gifts for us" would actually probably help it. I suggest you stop making religion your scapegoat.

The ancient astronaut theories are interesting. It draws a lot of lines between many civilizations. I personally don't think these lines don't need to be drawn but it's still neat. All the evidence that these theorists gather up in support of the theory is pretty circumstantial as well.

I think I'm going to stick with Occam's Razor on this one and say that the simplest answer is probably the correct one; that these civilization's didn't need aliens to come about their (insert pyramids, Nazca lines, cave drawings etc here).

If actual, rock hard evidence was discovered that showed aliens were being misinterpreted as being supernatural creatures then religious teachings would be bunk. This opens up another can of worms entirely, with religion having always had a large amount of power in ancient society, answering the questions of the scared and unintelligent and calming them etc, would it not be plausible to suggest that such evidence would be hidden or destroyed by such organisations that would be subsequently undermined?
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Well, there are several theories implying that indeed aliens helped us way back, but even then i dont personally think we would forget something like that so my theory (along with the one of many others) is that the bible it self is the proof of aliens being referred as angels and many other things, actually i think History channel has some shows about it witch i would recomend cheking out
Originally Posted by sirkill1 View Post
One of the only thing that supports the ancient aliens nonsense is the fact that technology to heave ten ton rocks to make pyramids simply did not exist in that era. Unless the techology was simply lost over time somebody or something definitely helped humans do some things.

Well if you say these aliens have the amazing weaponry and technology that they would definitely have if they had the ability to traverse the distances to earth, I can't see why they would simply help humans move a bunch of rocks around. These supposed aliens would have the ability to blow an entire planet and yet they simply decide to help out a civilization with some of their architecture? It just doesn't add up for me.
Also; I always thought that due to the time it would take to travel such large distances of space no matter how fast you are going it would be more efficient and safe just to send unmanned craft/probes.
Originally Posted by Murmayder View Post
So, what do you believe?

That there were no ancient astronauts
Originally Posted by Murmayder View Post
Also, if aliens came and helped us build some cool shit, does it even matter if we have already surpassed, or are soon to surpass such technology?

We havn't - we don't have the technology to do what they allegedly did.
Though, it would be disappointing if we already have. Thousands of years and all they did was nothing much...
Originally Posted by Murmayder View Post
Does it matter if they aren't still here or won't come back?

It would be nice if they are, so we can make contact with them, trade, etc.
Originally Posted by Murmayder View Post
What does this mean for modern day religion?

It means they need to keep denying logic/reason/proof like they always have.
Originally Posted by Murmayder View Post
If actual, rock hard evidence was discovered that showed aliens were being misinterpreted as being supernatural creatures then religious teachings would be bunk. This opens up another can of worms entirely, with religion having always had a large amount of power in ancient society, answering the questions of the scared and unintelligent and calming them etc, would it not be plausible to suggest that such evidence would be hidden or destroyed by such organisations that would be subsequently undermined?

Originally Posted by ImmortalCow View Post

It means they need to keep denying logic/reason/proof like they always have.

Religions are based on the assertion that their writings are teachings of a God or gods that may or may not exist. If it was found out that their writings are simply of anither species, of course it would be undermined. How does that even supress logic and reasoning ?
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